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Default Pininfarina Battista Hypercar

Four-motor, 1,900-hp screamer will go 250 mph, offer 300-mile range, 0-60 under 2 seconds




Automobili Pininfarina revealed two new shots of the rear end of its upcoming electric hypercar ahead of the beast’s Geneva debut in a couple weeks. In addition to company executives Michael Perschke and Paolo Pininfarina, you can get a slightly clearer view of the car’s rear wing elements and undertray valance panels. These items will help keep the car on the ground as it hits its claimed 250 mph top speed.

As for the rest of the car, one of our editors, Graham Kozak, has seen the entire thing, or at least a mockup of it that was said to be "within 10 to 15 percent" of what the finished product will look like.

“In profile, the PF0 is vaguely similar to a Ferrari 488, but it’s nearly free of all of the scoops, splitters, vents, winglets and buttresses that have made their way onto the most recent crop of Prancing Horses (and supercars and hypercars in general),” Kozak said. “Simplicity of form prevails here -- as design director Luca Borgogno explained, the idea was to define the car with just one or two character lines, rather than added-on parts and excessively sculpted surfaces.”

Kozak said the rear end featured active aerodynamics, though it’s hard to see where the parts in these photos would move. But active aero would certainly be necessary at the speeds the car can go.

As you know, the Battista comes from the famous design and small-volume manufacturing firm Pininfarina SpA in Italy and the newly formed, supposedly independent automaker Automobili Pininfarina in Munich. Both are 100 percent owned by Indian car- and truckmaker Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. Automobilia Pininfarina is planning to produce a line of ultra-high-performance, clean transportation. The company was launched earlier this year to “bring to market unique, beautiful and technically advanced sustainable luxury electric cars.”

If the design sketches and these two rear-end shots we’ve seen so far are any indication, the first car is going to be a doozy. From the earlier shadowy drawings and from these new shots, it looks like it’ll resemble nothing less than a modern take on the Ferrari P4, one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and one which was also designed by Pininfarina, albeit over 50 years ago.

Here again are the car’s performance claims: 0-60 in under two seconds, 0-186 mph in under 12 seconds, top speed of over 250 mph and a range of over 300 miles.




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....and, now for the price tag.................

Also, I just wonder what kind of accelerative-Gs the driver and passenger will be subjected to in less than two seconds from 0-60.
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lol they didn't know what to do with the rear bumper so they just leave a big cut out for the exhaust without an exhaust in it.
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Default Pininfarina Battista debuts in Geneva









Pininfarina, the storied Italian design house, has been working on its own production car for the past few years. We've seen previews, teasers and more for more than a year. Hell, if you have the cash, you can even put in an application to buy one of the 150 that will be built. Finally, at the 2019 Geneva Motor Show, the wraps have been pulled off the Pininfarina Battista, a sleek new 1,900-horsepower all-electric supercar that promises to be the most powerful road car ever to come out of Italy.

Power from the Rimac-supplied 120 kWh battery pack is sent to all four wheels, helping propel the Battista to 62 mph in fewer than 2 seconds and more than 180 mph in just 12 seconds. Torque output peaks at 1,696 pound-feet while the Battista itself tops out at 217 mph. To save weight, the Battista uses a carbon-fiber monocoque with carbon-fiber bodywork and an aluminum crash structure. Pininfarina doesn't list the car's weight, but the t-shaped battery resting in the middle of the car should help the Battista's overall balance. The carbon-ceramic brakes use six-piston calipers both front and rear.

The car is typically Pininfarina and Italian in design. The mid-engine proportions give it a vague Ferrari-like appearance, especially up front. That's not surprising considering just how many Ferrari designs have come from Pininfarina. The thin LED taillights are capped by an active spoiler. The charging port is in the rear, just at the tail end of the rear window. The Battista is set up for DC fast charging and has an estimated range of about 280 miles.

Only 150 will be built (50 to North America, 50 to Europe and 50 to the Middle East/Asia) and Pininfarina says this is the first in a range of zero-emission performance vehicles.
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Default Pininfarina Battista gets a small redesign






The Pininfarina Battista may be the wildest car revealed this year. It's an all-electric supercar with 1,900 horsepower that promises a 0-60 mph time of under 2 seconds. Piloting one sounds akin to a jump to hyperspace. The only bad thing we can say about it now is that you can't buy one yet — even so, a small redesign was revealed at the Turin Motor Show. None of the performance specs have budged, but there are a few styling elements that have been tweaked.

Pininfarina justifies the changes in the name of aerodynamics. Testing done after the car's initial debut in Geneva showed that things could be improved, so Pininfarina set out to do so. The lower front grille area has been massaged with some reshaping. Additional elements have been added inside the front opening with a couple extra slats framing the honeycomb grille. Also, the side mirrors have been drastically redone, looking far more exotic and slippery than before. It's safe to say that all these noticeable changes don't do anything to change our opinion about how fantastic it looks.

We're told to expect the next stages of wind tunnel and road testing to take place this summer in Italy. Will there be further changes to the design after this? Who knows. We do know that the plan for making just 150 of them hasn't changed, though. The latest from Pininfarina says to expect a driving range of about 280 miles and a top speed of 217 mph. A 0-180 mph time of 12 seconds is quoted as an official acceleration figure, too. Production is supposed to begin in 2020.



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Pininfarina revealed updated Battista, gave private preview of Pura Vision design concept at Monterey




Pininfarina Automobili looks to be following a similar scheme it used to successful effect last year with the Battista launch. In 2018, the car company held private VIP viewings of the Battista electric hypercar, gathered reservations, then revealed the final product at this year's Geneva Motor Show. At the 2019 Pininfarina VIP events, the company brought a tweaked version of the Battista, shown above, but also showed off the new Pura Vision, an "inspirational view of the aesthetics of a future pure-electric Luxury Utility Vehicle from the Italian marque." Pura is the name of the design language that Italian-based Pininfarina SpA, the 89-year-old design firm, applies to products created for one-year-old Germany-based car company with the similar name of Pininfarina Automobili.

Unfortunately, the Pura Vision's reveal was only to private eyes, and the only image, shown below, the company shared was of part of the roof in front of the company's design director, Luca Borgogno. Borgogno said the "Pura Vision... is absolutely an insight into our future; a luxury vehicle like no other and once again designed to deliver thrilling EV performance."

The Pura Vision is likely a lightly dressed concept version of the SUV due to be launched in 2021, as well as a more general presentation of what we can expect from less hyper Pininfarina products. Based on the tightly cropped photo of Borgogno with the Pura Vision concept, we can can make a smooth stretch of glass from the windshield to a wraparound rear wing, the roof in between partitioned by a design element similar to the channel running up the center of the Battista's roof.

We could know more come the 2020 Geneva Motor Show, when the Pura Vision possibly scheduled for a public debut by the lake. If this is indeed the SUV to challenge the Lamborghini Urus, our last report said it could use a skateboard chassis purchased from Rivian, with Rivian's middling 135-kWh battery pack, electric motors producing a combined 1,088 horsepower, and a range of around 375 miles on a charge. The price should take a steep climb down from the Battista's cumulonimbus heights, suspected to come in between $220,000 and $445,000.

As for Pininfarina evolved version of the Battista, it's not restyled just for aesthetics, but for functional reasons. Having put the slinky speeder through additional wind tunnel testing in Italy, the automaker says a re-sculpted front end and "final design refinements" have unlocked another 50 kilometers (31 miles) of range from its 120-kWh lithium-ion battery pack. On top of that, the company said it doubled the number of Battista reservation holders during its time in Monterey; only 50 coupes are slated for the North American market, 50 for Europe, and a final 50 for the Middle East and Asia.
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lexus should hire pininfarina

they hired giugiaro once
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Default Pininfarina begins testing the 1,900-horsepower Battista on the Nardň track

Deliveries are scheduled to start in 2021







A crop of multi-million-dollar electric hypercars is emerging from the industry's fantasyland and creeping towards production. Pininfarina announced its 1,900-horsepower Battista has successfully completed its first round of high-speed testing, which is like boot camp for prototypes, on the Nardň track located in Italy.

Although technology has become mind-bogglingly advanced, and it's possible to test a powertrain without building it, Pininfarina explained there is no substitute for real-world evaluations. Instead of putting test pilots in a prototype cobbled together with various odds and ends, it assigned them a fully assembled model equipped with roughly the same set of features that buyers will receive when deliveries begin. Going through the trouble of making a finished car is a good way to test even basic features, like the power windows and the speakers.

Engineers learned a lot while lapping Nardň. The data they harvested will allow them to program the carbon ceramic brakes to work seamlessly with the aerobrake and the energy recuperation system, for example. They also tweaked the torque vectoring system and the suspension. Many of the components under the carbon fiber body are shared with the Rimac C_Two, which is also undergoing validation testing, but they're tuned in-house.

Surprisingly, the Battista's specifications sheet hasn't changed significantly since its unveiling. It's still built on top of a mammoth 120-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery pack that channels the electricity it stores to four electric motors. The system develops 1,900 horsepower and 1,700 pound-feet of torque, and it's capable of distributing power between the four wheels as needed. Pininfarina promises a zero-to-60-mph time of less than 2 seconds.

Next, the designer-turned-carmaker will put the Battista through more validations tests on and off the road. Pininfarina notably needs to fine-tune and homologate the chassis. Deliveries are still scheduled to begin before the end of 2021, and production is limited to 150 examples worldwide. Pricing starts at approximately $2.2 million before options and delivery, but collectors with more to spend can order the $2.8-million Anniversario model. It's limited to five examples, so it's a limited-edition version of a limited-edition car, and it takes three weeks to paint.

Though 1,900 horsepower is a dazzling figure, the Battista isn't the most powerful electric car in the pipeline. That honor currently goes to the 2,000-horsepower Lotus Evija, though the list grows on a shockingly regular basis.
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lexus should hire pininfarina

they hired giugiaro once
A pininfarina inspired spindle grille as tall as a mountain and as wide as a continent would be amazing!
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I doubt I'll ever see the Battista in person, but glad to see Pininfarina alive and kicking
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Default Pininfarina Battista First Drive

MALIBU, Calif. — The all-electric Pininfarina Battista throws around some impressive numbers. Power output in the 1,900-horsepower neighborhood. A 0-to-60 time of less than 2 seconds. A range estimated to be 300 miles. A starting price of $2.2 million. All of that might invite the names hypercar or supercar, but that would imply it’s harsh and unforgiving. Instead, Pininfarina defines the Battista as a hyper GT, giving it the otherworldly power and performance of a hypercar while remaining comfortable enough to take on a road trip.

That’s a tall order for any vehicle, let alone the first car produced by a new manufacturer. After spending an afternoon with the Battista on some of our favorite roads above Malibu, we can definitively say that their boldness has paid off.


Automobili Pininfarina is the new manufacturing offshoot of the Carrozzeria Pininfarina design firm that has penned some of the most iconic cars in history. These include the 1947 Cisitalia 202, which is regarded as the first car that integrated fenders into the rest of the bodywork. Then there are icons such as the Fiat and Alfa Romeo Spiders (above right) along with the nouveau-classic Cadillac Allante. But it's Pininfarina's association with Ferrari that is most notable, including most of the 250 GT line (above left), Daytona, 512 BB, and wild 1980s Testarossa.

The Battista is named for Battista “Pinin” Farina, who founded Carrozzeria Pininfarina in 1930. A lot of its battery, chassis and motor componentry comes from Rimac, the nascent Croatian electric supercar maker that recently paired with Porsche to take over Bugatti.

The Battista’s exterior styling certainly has echoes of Ferrari, and really, can you think of a better compliment? As an all-electric vehicle, it doesn’t have the same kind of cooling and air intake needs as the gasoline-powered Ferraris and results in a cleaner and more elemental shape. The design is still aggressive as hell, but less shouty, and that plays well with the hyper GT positioning.



Once you pop the dihedral driver’s door, you’re greeted by a rather narrow passage between the dash and seat. Getting in takes a bit more stooping and maneuvering compared to conventional sports cars, but there are certainly exotics that are more difficult to access. Pulling the door down doesn’t take much effort, but you have to give it a strong slam to get it to fully shut, making it a strong candidate for soft-close doors.

The seats are firm and have excellent side bolstering to keep you in place when cornering. There are also more aggressive racing shell-type seats available, but in our estimation, unnecessary. Your feet can extend mostly straight ahead since front wheelwell intrusion is minimized. We haven’t even moved yet and the Battista is already fulfilling part of its hyper GT promise.

The cockpit is modern and minimal, with two horizontal touchscreens flanking the steering wheel and a phone-like display in the middle that displays speed and other primary information. Off to the sides, at the 5- and 7-o’clock positions, are two dials. The left selects drive modes and the right is the start button and gear selector. The cabin is cozy but not confining, and has a good amount of lateral space.

The Battista is already activated as we get in, a fact indicated by the subtle high-pitched whine and fan noises, much like a jetliner running on its auxiliary power unit as you find your seat. Foot on the brake and a quick spin of the right dial puts it in drive. A little pressure on the throttle and the Battista starts to roll forward on the gravel valet circle. Once on the broad, sweeping roads in the Santa Monica Mountains, it’s striking how well-mannered a 1,900-hp car can be.


We’re in the Pura (Pure) drive mode, which seems equivalent to a default comfort mode. It’s easy to drive, with no fear that you’ll accidentally overdo it and spin into a ditch. At the same time, it’s way more potent than most drivers will ever need. In this way, it’s as approachable as a 911 Carrrera 4S and we fantasize about an alternate reality where this is our daily driver.

The ride is stiff, but not punishing. There’s a lot of jostling over the pavement’s undulations, but the smart suspension keeps potholes from sending sharp jolts into your backside. You also hear every tire impact and slap over seams, along with the frequent ricochets of pebbles and debris off the undertray. There’s just enough harshness to remind you of its sporting potential and just enough compliance to consider driving it six hours somewhere.

Now that we’re acclimated, it’s time to turn up the performance. We skip the Calma (Calm) and Carattere (Character) drive modes, which equate to eco and individual modes, respectively. The Energica (Energetic) mode is what can be considered the sport mode. The ride gets firmer, the throttle response more immediate and the steering seems livelier. The synthetic driveline noises also get louder as you muster enough courage to give that pedal a proper stomp.

The Battista instantaneously obeys, launching forward with unstoppable determination. In a time when sub 3-second acceleration to 60 mph is considered increasingly normal, the all-wheel-drive Pininfarina still manages to impress as it’s estimated to hit 60 a whole second earlier. On the rougher sections of winding pavement, the suspension is just a bit too stiff. Mid-corner bumps will keep you alert and the larger whoops will have you thanking your racing school coaches.


Selecting Furiosa activates an equivalent race or track mode, unleashing the full power output and relaxing the driver assists. It’s every driving trope wrapped up in one. It goes to 11; face-warping acceleration; you’ll see the grim reaper and he’ll give you a thumbs up; pick your favorite exaggeration and it applies here. Off the line, the Battista launches hard enough that your vision gets blurry. There’s a slight side-to-side squirm that also indicates you have indeed found a limit and you should proceed at your own peril. It’s unyielding and unforgiving when provoked, and that’s precisely what we wanted on the high end.

The range of comfort and performance afforded by these drive modes is vast. The Battista does indeed warrant the new hyper GT classification. But it’s also so much more. The details could keep us yammering on for days, but we’ll try to pare it down to a few paragraphs.

The interior features an abundance of impeccable leather surfaces, and those hides are sourced close to the Cambiano, Italy, factory. They’re tanned using more environmentally friendly methods that somehow involve local olive leaves. There aren’t any vegan alternatives as Pininfarina says production of those materials have their own chemical drawbacks. The aluminum trim elements aren’t cast, they’re machined from solid billets. They’re attractive while not going as over-the-top as in a Pagani.

On the outside, the charge port is at the center of the tail, a move that Chief Design Officer Dave Amantea lobbied for and won. It keeps charging cables from being draped over the carbon fiber bodywork and is easily accessible. A Pf logo between that port and the trunk (yes, there’s a trunk) illuminates when charging and the outer frame of the badge shows the charge state so you can know with a quick glance how much juice is left.


The glass trunk lid is power deployed and closed. Its stepped floor makes it difficult to load even a paper bag full of groceries, but Pinifarina offers a custom set of luggage that fits perfectly and can be upholstered to match the rest of the cabin. The price? Try $20,000, or the equivalent of a new Nissan Sentra.

There’s even a pragmatic side to the Battista, as you can add a five- or 10-year maintenance program and extend the warranty coverage for the massive 120-kilowatt-hour battery pack to 10 years. Then there’s the Eterna program that offers a replacement body parts kit that is painted at the same time as your Battista. Take a moment to let that soak in because we’re already imagining the most amazing garage wall art.

As Paolo Dellachŕ, Pininfarina’s Chief Product and Engineering Officer was eager to point out, these programs enhance the ownership experience and also increase the value of the Battista. Considering production is capped at 150 examples and no two will be allowed to be identical (unless, we suppose, you buy two!), there’s no doubt it’s an instant collectible that should only increase in price. As a fully electric hyper GT, may also be more future proof than the current raft of internal-combustion supercars.

Trying to remain impartial and objective during this review is a challenge, but with a sub-orbital price of $2.2 million, most normal sensibilities are obliterated. This is one of those cars that have you questioning past life choices or pondering how much you could sell a kidney for (you can’t, it turns out). The few nitpicks are limited to the hard-to-shut doors, a distracting reflection from the dash top in the windshield, and the tedious infotainment screens that you have to use to even adjust the seats. These drawbacks are as easily dispatched as any vehicle trying to keep up with the Battista.
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