Toyota Cost Cutting, really grinding my gears.
02-08-19, 09:48 AM
#121
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How come, btw, do police officers (seen it on YouTube) ask people, "Can you roll down your window a little more?" If you said, "No, I cannot," that's actually accurate as there's nothing to roll, that I know of...
02-08-19, 11:35 AM
#122
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02-08-19, 12:05 PM
#123
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Forgot it being overkill for a moment. Why wouldn’t you want something like this? It’s small details that make things better. The point of it is to be able to easily feel which window is which window switch, not everyone drives there car every day or perhaps they drive different car one day but a different car the next.
02-08-19, 12:11 PM
#125
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Forgot it being overkill for a moment. Why wouldn’t you want something like this? It’s small details that make things better. The point of it is to be able to easily feel which window is which window switch, not everyone drives there car every day or perhaps they drive different car one day but a different car the next.
02-08-19, 12:15 PM
#126
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Thanks for posting . Looks proper with the spacers.
02-08-19, 12:16 PM
#127
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No reason. I just don't think it adds value. If you can't feel which switch is on the left, then you probably won't recognize the indent or raised area. I would harbor a guess that Toyota would save more money by getting rid of that (eliminates a part number) than taking the separator tab out of the plastic mold.
02-08-19, 12:19 PM
#128
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In terms of lights, I would vote to leave them in. I am a big advocate of lighted controls.
02-08-19, 12:27 PM
#130
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Having the lights helps you locate the window switch panel. Knowledge and muscle memory will quickly lead you there in your own car, but as you pointed out, sometimes people drive cars that they are not familiar with. Window switch panel locations vary greatly between cars and manufacturers. I've seen them high up on the door sill (4Runner, for example), I've seen them on the arm wrest (Highlander), I've seen them down lower on the door (previous gen 4Runner like you have), and of course we've seen them down in the center console.
The indent on a driver's side switch doesn't really help. You've already located the panel by that point, and you can feel which switch is on the left.
The indent on a driver's side switch doesn't really help. You've already located the panel by that point, and you can feel which switch is on the left.
02-08-19, 12:35 PM
#131
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Having the lights helps you locate the window switch panel. Knowledge and muscle memory will quickly lead you there in your own car, but as you pointed out, sometimes people drive cars that they are not familiar with.
The indent on a driver's side switch doesn't really help. You've already located the panel by that point, and you can feel which switch is on the left.
The indent on a driver's side switch doesn't really help. You've already located the panel by that point, and you can feel which switch is on the left.
02-08-19, 12:56 PM
#132
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I guess its time to boycott Toyota over their lack of window dividers. I think it possibly is to differentiate their outgoing switches that are probably almost 2 decades old with their new lineup of switches. The whole TGNA thing is a ground up effort, starting with those dividers 
02-08-19, 01:00 PM
#133
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I guess its time to boycott Toyota over their lack of window dividers. I think it possibly is to differentiate their outgoing switches that are probably almost 2 decades old with their new lineup of switches. The whole TGNA thing is a ground up effort, starting with those dividers
02-08-19, 01:09 PM
#134
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Its not about boycotting. It's about differentiating whether it's cost cutting vs not needed. Toyota could go from hero to zero in no time, they could cost cut other stuff. My parents should not be complaining about their window switches opening both by accident. The space prevents this.
02-08-19, 01:12 PM
#135
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How would you tell the difference? It could have lowered costs by 1 cent, but those internal costs are not disclosed. It could have been a design theme, following the trends of other mfgs. If Toyota is going down the way of say GM/FCA (Flamesuit on), nothing much one can do, besides waiting.