Model 3 demand Slowing?
02-01-19, 05:37 AM
#16
The pursuit of F
Agree. In Canada, this by far will be the biggest impact in the decline of Model 3 sales. Will wait for a few months of sales numbers to quantify this, but we lost a $14,000 credit late last year in Ontario which makes 40% of Canada's population.
I was toying with the idea of considering one but not with the missing $14K incentive as it gets way too pricey ($75-100K+ for a mid to top-range). Plus add in the increase costs of electricity at the Supercharger stations, it will be a tougher sell up here.
02-01-19, 05:41 AM
#17
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I thought in the u.s. at least that tesla dropped the price half the size of the credit loss, so it’s not as bad, maybe about net 2k more?
02-01-19, 06:14 AM
#18
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What will the anti-Tesla folks be able to say when they realize Tesla stepped up to make the final price remain within 4% (max) of what it was before?FWIW, The net difference is a $1,750 increase compared to when the tax credits were at $7,500. On a $44k Model 3, that's a 4% difference.
02-01-19, 07:04 AM
#19
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^^
imo, a couple of the bigger problems about the model 3 going forward are 1) the interior, and 2) it's not an suv/cuv.
i'm no fan of the no driver gauges approach and i think a massive touch screen in the center stack for just about everything is the very definition of distracting.
about it not being an suv/cuv, i think tesla is launching a smaller ute than the x next, is that right? the 'y'?
imo, a couple of the bigger problems about the model 3 going forward are 1) the interior, and 2) it's not an suv/cuv.
i'm no fan of the no driver gauges approach and i think a massive touch screen in the center stack for just about everything is the very definition of distracting.
about it not being an suv/cuv, i think tesla is launching a smaller ute than the x next, is that right? the 'y'?
02-01-19, 07:16 AM
#20
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but it could be crazier...
maker claims this will be out by end of this year.
https://www.gearbrain.com/byton-m-by...625300260.html
maker claims this will be out by end of this year.
https://www.gearbrain.com/byton-m-by...625300260.html
02-01-19, 08:02 AM
#22
Lexus Fanatic
The auto/tech industry wants to turn automobiles into rolling billboards, advertising pods. Don't be surprised in the not too distant future you have to watch some stupid commercial on the big screen before you can put the car in drive everytime you start it up.
02-01-19, 09:21 AM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
In my Lacrosse, unwanted disclaimers routinely pop up on the video-screen warning you not to take your eyes off the road (which you have to do to read the disclaimer to start with LOL), or telling you it may be cold enough for ice outside (DUH?), or that the Wi-Fi is connecting, even if you don't want it or need it while the car s moving. You often have to turn this stuff off manually, which means even more distractions.
02-01-19, 09:46 AM
#24
Lexus Test Driver
In my Lacrosse, unwanted disclaimers routinely pop up on the video-screen warning you not to take your eyes off the road (which you have to do to read the disclaimer to start with LOL), or telling you it may be cold enough for ice outside (DUH?), or that the Wi-Fi is connecting, even if you don't want it or need it while the car s moving. You often have to turn this stuff off manually, which means even more distractions.
As for the wi-fi thing, my best guess is they're assuming you might have passengers for whom the wifi would be useful. Maybe they could tap into the sensors that tell the car when the passenger seats are occupied to determine whether that message is needed.
Looking at that tesla interior above, I just think that's gaudy as hell. I prefer a normal looking dash. I need buttons and real gauges. It just looks too.....sterile and I hate hit. I am excited for the innovation that Tesla has spurred though. Making electric cars available for people who want them is a great idea. More gasoline for my truck.
02-01-19, 10:46 AM
#25
Pole Position
^^
imo, a couple of the bigger problems about the model 3 going forward are 1) the interior, and 2) it's not an suv/cuv.
i'm no fan of the no driver gauges approach and i think a massive touch screen in the center stack for just about everything is the very definition of distracting.
about it not being an suv/cuv, i think tesla is launching a smaller ute than the x next, is that right? the 'y'?
imo, a couple of the bigger problems about the model 3 going forward are 1) the interior, and 2) it's not an suv/cuv.
i'm no fan of the no driver gauges approach and i think a massive touch screen in the center stack for just about everything is the very definition of distracting.
about it not being an suv/cuv, i think tesla is launching a smaller ute than the x next, is that right? the 'y'?
02-01-19, 11:00 AM
#26
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Thread Starter
How dare you introduce facts into this thread? What will the anti-Tesla folks be able to say when they realize Tesla stepped up to make the final price remain within 4% (max) of what it was before?
FWIW, The net difference is a $1,750 increase compared to when the tax credits were at $7,500. On a $44k Model 3, that's a 4% difference.
What will the anti-Tesla folks be able to say when they realize Tesla stepped up to make the final price remain within 4% (max) of what it was before?FWIW, The net difference is a $1,750 increase compared to when the tax credits were at $7,500. On a $44k Model 3, that's a 4% difference.
02-01-19, 12:13 PM
#27
Pole Position
That in itself doesn't translate to real world demand in my eyes. However, someone commented here that the "lack of demand" was being driven by the $7,500 rebate being cut to $3,750. I'm saying it's a non-factor because Tesla modified the price to compensate for it. So if there is lack of demand, it isn't due to price.
02-01-19, 12:36 PM
#29
Regarding the Model3 display, surely someone has done a study comparing such a mechanism versus conventional ***** and buttons when it comes to eyes leaving the road. If such a study hasn't been done, it would a terrific project for a young grad student.
And surely Lexus has done internal studies regarding touchscreens versus mice. I personally don't mind the mouse in my 2010RX. It may not be the ideal but I suspect it is "better" than having to touch a screen two feet in front of you while trying not to take eyes off the road. But the research would address this.
And surely Lexus has done internal studies regarding touchscreens versus mice. I personally don't mind the mouse in my 2010RX. It may not be the ideal but I suspect it is "better" than having to touch a screen two feet in front of you while trying not to take eyes off the road. But the research would address this.
02-01-19, 04:54 PM
#30
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And surely Lexus has done internal studies regarding touchscreens versus mice. I personally don't mind the mouse in my 2010RX. It may not be the ideal but I suspect it is "better" than having to touch a screen two feet in front of you while trying not to take eyes off the road. But the research would address this.