korean and japanese cars
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#18
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The fact that Hyundai and KIA are killing it right now is a good thing for consumers. It fosters competition and can drive innovation.
#19
Why do you care if the Korean cars are more reliable? This seems like a good thing overall. And like someone else said, what does Korean cars being more reliable have anything to do with Japanese cars getting more unreliable? They are independent of each other. Just FYI, many Japanese cars have been unreliable over the years. Go check out some Mitsubishi's.
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No, I don't think it is a troll....at least not an intentional one. This person is simply bringing up a question that has a lot of today's potential vehicle-buyers concerned, not only for the vehicles themselves, but what would be the better way to spend one's automotive dollars (or whatever the local currency is there in Kazakhstan). It is only common courtesy, on our part, to welcome a new member, and, as vehicle-buffs, give him or her our honest opinions.
#22
Lexus Test Driver
I don't think he's a troll. I just think there might be some language/cultural differences is all.
I personally think Toyota has slipped a little in reliability. Honda has as well.
That's not to say they're unreliable, just not quite as reliable as they were in the past. It shouldn't be surprising. Companies often build a solid reputation and then let it go to their head, thinking that people will keep buying their stuff anyway, but now they can save a dollar or two.
I personally think Toyota has slipped a little in reliability. Honda has as well.
That's not to say they're unreliable, just not quite as reliable as they were in the past. It shouldn't be surprising. Companies often build a solid reputation and then let it go to their head, thinking that people will keep buying their stuff anyway, but now they can save a dollar or two.
#23
Lexus Fanatic
Having owned a Korean product, many Toyota/Lexus models over the years, and multiple American cars over the past 8 years...IMHO the Japanese have slid some, and the Koreans are on an upswing.
Hyundai and Kia have something to prove and are always trying to improve, while Toyota (and Honda) have sat on their laurels a lot. That seems to be changing in the latest set of cars I'm seeing come out of both Toyota and Honda, so we will see.
I do believe between about 2005-2015 Toyota and Honda were in decline when it came to product quality.
Hyundai and Kia have something to prove and are always trying to improve, while Toyota (and Honda) have sat on their laurels a lot. That seems to be changing in the latest set of cars I'm seeing come out of both Toyota and Honda, so we will see.
I do believe between about 2005-2015 Toyota and Honda were in decline when it came to product quality.
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Thank you all very much for your answers, but I’ll repeat once again as I’m a fan of the Japanese car industry, I’ll still worry because Koreans are serious competitors for the US market, but Koreans don’t compete with Japan because they are banned because of bad sales. that the Japanese will not lose quality as the US market is the main market for the Japanese, although in the Chinese market, Toyota and Honda sell well, unlike Kia Hyundai.
#25
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Kia and Hyundai lost out in dependability to two Japanese manufacturers and beat seven. Lexus remains #1 for seven years in a row. That is called domination.
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I just bought the new 2019 SantaFe. Its a solid sweet car, 2.0 Turbo Ultimate. These are totally loaded for 40k with 6k off. 5/60 full and 10/100K powertrain warranty. Its just a top notch mall crawler though compared to my Grand Cherokee which is a more substantial vehicle.
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I would say it's a good thing these guys aren't running clinical trials for new drugs.
Domination?
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Thank you all very much for your answers, but I’ll repeat once again as I’m a fan of the Japanese car industry, I’ll still worry because Koreans are serious competitors for the US market, but Koreans don’t compete with Japan because they are banned because of bad sales. that the Japanese will not lose quality as the US market is the main market for the Japanese, although in the Chinese market, Toyota and Honda sell well, unlike Kia Hyundai.
Are you worried that the Korean upswing will take away from Japanese sales? Or do you think that because of a lack of sales, Japanese quality will decline?
Honda is basically off of my list now, after the transmission issues they had in the 98-02 Accord V6 and other models that shared that transmission, and the CRV's oil dilution issues.
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