What Club Lexus Members Love/Hate About the 2019 ES

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01-09-19, 07:23 AM

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Any vehicle that is running, but stopped with the driver not in the vehicle -- including remotely-started vehicles -- runs a greater risk of convenience theft. If somebody sees a running vehicle with no driver, all they have to do is get inside and drive off.

But if the remotely-started vehicle shuts off when the door is opened, forcing the driver to restart with the key or keyfob in the vehicle, that reduces the risk of theft.

first off, i cannot remote start my g90 unless the doors are locked... it may do it if they're not, can't remember. my jeep certainly did. so if it's locked, no one is just getting inside and driving off.
second, the car should not be able to be driven off without the key inside the vehicle.
third, why would the car shut off when opening the door IF it's the driver that has approached the car, with the key in proximity?

this is just an unbelievably stupid design.

01-09-19, 07:24 AM

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on a more positive note, saw a new es on the road yesterday (first one i've seen), and it looked very nice. at first i thought it was a new ls

01-09-19, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

first off, i cannot remote start my g90 unless the doors are locked... it may do it if they're not, can't remember. my jeep certainly did. so if it's locked, no one is just getting inside and driving off.
second, the car should not be able to be driven off without the key inside the vehicle.
third, why would the car shut off when opening the door IF it's the driver that has approached the car, with the key in proximity?

this is just an unbelievably stupid design.

I'm sure you're just referring to a vehicle started remotely. But, you would be amazed by the number of people that start their vehicles normally, then walk away with the fob thinking no one can drive it off.

01-09-19, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

on a more positive note, saw a new es on the road yesterday (first one i've seen), and it looked very nice. at first i thought it was a new ls

I just don't care for it. The sloping lines in the back look weird, the front overhang is too long, headlights are too squinty. Spending a few hours with them I really prefer the previous car (in post 2016 refresh form)

01-09-19, 08:05 AM

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on a more positive note, saw a new es on the road yesterday (first one i've seen), and it looked very nice. at first i thought it was a new ls

I've seen a few around and I agree. I find the styling to be a massive improvement over the outgoing model.

01-09-19, 10:22 AM

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The improved interior materials, updated safety and infotainment (CarPlay, Alexa), better MPGs, and stronger V6 and Hybrid, and big trunk even in hybrid form are some of it's best improvements