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Great - this will be limited to 100 units and cost over $100k.
Lexus will parade it around all the auto shows and says look at this “we do build real sports cars!”
I assume they will be sitting on dealer lots for at least 2 years......
Great - this will be limited to 100 units and cost over $100k.
Lexus will parade it around all the auto shows and says look at this “we do build real sports cars!”
I assume they will be sitting on dealer lots for at least 2 years......
my thoughts exactly; and they'll wonder why they don't sell.
As long as they follow Germans their F brand will not achieve anything much like Cadillac V and countless others that go and straight out copycat Germans. Those who want German sedan rockets will always go and buy German sedan rockets and very few will opt for the alternative. Lexus has money to sustain the F but that's not the point. Point is to make it something that's worth it and not an alternative. In other words they need to do something that Germans don't do (LFA was to an extent something like that but not quite). Instead of trying to match Germans just good enough to be considered the "same market" they need to go and see why Evo X, S2000, GT-R became so big. F brand needs to march at their own beat and completely forget about German competition except at maybe the bottom range like IS/RC. They need stand alone F models and not variations of volume production models.
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Thats all well and good but F brand is a disaster at this point.
All F cars use same V8 engine and 8speed auto. This engine originally was used in the ISF 10years ago.
Not only that but they now put it in a non-F car, the LC500 which makes it even less special.
Then you have all the Fsport trims on everything from RX to new ES. Most people don’t even know what is a true F car.
We can only dream that Lexus follow the Germans lol - at this point they are truly lost in the forest.
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Thats all well and good but F brand is a disaster at this point.
All F cars use same V8 engine and 8speed auto. This engine originally was used in the ISF 10years ago.
Not only that but they now put it in a non-F car, the LC500 which makes it even less special.
Then you have all the Fsport trims on everything from RX to new ES. Most people don’t even know what is a true F car.
We can only dream that Lexus follow the Germans lol - at this point they are truly lost in the forest.
I agree it's a lost cause so far. They don't have technology to compete with current low end German offers let alone new M5.
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Thats all well and good but F brand is a disaster at this point.
All F cars use same V8 engine and 8speed auto. This engine originally was used in the ISF 10years ago.
Not only that but they now put it in a non-F car, the LC500 which makes it even less special.
Then you have all the Fsport trims on everything from RX to new ES. Most people don’t even know what is a true F car.
We can only dream that Lexus follow the Germans lol - at this point they are truly lost in the forest.
exactly... i wish there was a lexus model identical to the E55, toyota ownership is generally less irritating and costly and i'd rather own one over a mercedes... i also don't really care about "the prestige" although i'll admit it's kinda cool to look out at the star on the hood, and to see AMG at the bottom of one gauge and V8 Kompressor in the other
but, afaik there's only one perfectly proportioned sedan the size of a camry with a 5.4 liter supercharged 500hp V8 and has generally good reliability that can be bought for under $15k or even $10k
As long as they follow Germans their F brand will not achieve anything much like Cadillac V and countless others that go and straight out copycat Germans. Those who want German sedan rockets will always go and buy German sedan rockets and very few will opt for the alternative. Lexus has money to sustain the F but that's not the point. Point is to make it something that's worth it and not an alternative. In other words they need to do something that Germans don't do (LFA was to an extent something like that but not quite). Instead of trying to match Germans just good enough to be considered the "same market" they need to go and see why Evo X, S2000, GT-R became so big. F brand needs to march at their own beat and completely forget about German competition except at maybe the bottom range like IS/RC. They need stand alone F models and not variations of volume production models.
isnt that what they are doing right now, being unique with V8 engine?
Most people who are complaining about F cars not being twin turbo 600+ hp monsters will also complain when twin turbo 600+ hp monster arrives, they will just shift to some other reason.
How in the world do you design unique car that can sell 1000 copies per year? You want Lexus to build Lambo's for 80k?
12-20-18, 05:39 PM
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