spike strip causes crash with a bystander
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There just had to be a safer place to lay that spike strip. Somewhere without so much stopped traffic, not on a downhill, etc.
I simply do not believe putting that many people in danger could have been the ONLY solution.
I simply do not believe putting that many people in danger could have been the ONLY solution.
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I agree. This was a really stupid idea by the police. In Ontario (may all of Canada) police chases are to be terminated if there are any chance of public danger. This should never of happened.
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You're making a lot of assumptions yourself, so..
It's absolutely ridiculous to place blame on anyone but the speeding driver here. If the spike strip wasn't laid here, a ton of other worse things could have happened. Driver could have attempt to blow through a busy intersection and T-bone a vehicle or cause a collision at a high speed. Driver could be going through a neighbourhood or school zone with children playing in the streets. Instead, the car hit a spike strip that caused it to lose control and hit a parked car. Better to be hit by a sliding car in the safety of your vehicle vs. getting hit by a car at speed with nothing to protect you.
The people in the car definitely have grounds to sue. But if I was the one calling the shots, I would have risked a lawsuit by laying the spike strip there instead of risking the lives of other pedestrians.
It's absolutely ridiculous to place blame on anyone but the speeding driver here. If the spike strip wasn't laid here, a ton of other worse things could have happened. Driver could have attempt to blow through a busy intersection and T-bone a vehicle or cause a collision at a high speed. Driver could be going through a neighbourhood or school zone with children playing in the streets. Instead, the car hit a spike strip that caused it to lose control and hit a parked car. Better to be hit by a sliding car in the safety of your vehicle vs. getting hit by a car at speed with nothing to protect you.
The people in the car definitely have grounds to sue. But if I was the one calling the shots, I would have risked a lawsuit by laying the spike strip there instead of risking the lives of other pedestrians.
Watch the video--there were people out of their cars on the side of the road when this car was coming. Who is to say the car didn't swerve in THAT direction instead. Those folks would not have had the protection of the people sitting in their cars. What if the subject car flipped at that speed? There's just too many unknowns to put down spike strips right there with all those cars parked there. I don't see any cop cars parked beyond the spike strips--why do you think that is? Maybe because its incredibly dangerous to be in that location?
I may be making assumptions, but not about what I can see. There absolutely had to be a better way.
Smh. Why don't we blame the pedestrians and the people on the side of the road while we're at it. You're parked on the shoulder and a cop comes along to lay down a spike strip. You must be an absolute moron to stay parked on the shoulder instead of moving off the road and onto the grass, right?
You are correct in saying that there are too many unknowns. We've been commenting on this after analyzing what happened, but as mentioned earlier, maybe cops didn't have the opportunity or the time to analyze the outcome properly. This was what appears to be a high speed pursuit with an unpredictable driver.
You are correct in saying that there are too many unknowns. We've been commenting on this after analyzing what happened, but as mentioned earlier, maybe cops didn't have the opportunity or the time to analyze the outcome properly. This was what appears to be a high speed pursuit with an unpredictable driver.
Here you go, more information. https://www.pressherald.com/2018/12/...-near-raymond/
"Four people, including Tucker, were injured in the crash. None of the injuries was life-threatening, said Goulet in a news release.
Tucker (driver) was arrested and charged with aggravated driving to endanger, aggravated eluding a law enforcement officer, criminal speed, and failure to maintain control of a vehicle, among other infractions, Goulet said.
Deputies were searching for Tucker because of his involvement in a “domestic situation” in Casco earlier Sunday.
“Tucker made threats of going to a residence in Windham and causing harm,” Goulet said.
"When officers use a pursuit termination device, like a spike mat, other drivers are supposed to be kept far away from the area to avoid crashes, according to Hall. In this instance, everything happened too quickly and there were not enough officers available to do that," he added.
“Usually, when spike mats are deployed, it is rapidly unfolding,” Hall said. “We try to make it as safe as possible. If the suspect just drives over the strips, it is not a problem; if he tries to go around it or take other action, it becomes a problem."
"Four people, including Tucker, were injured in the crash. None of the injuries was life-threatening, said Goulet in a news release.
Tucker (driver) was arrested and charged with aggravated driving to endanger, aggravated eluding a law enforcement officer, criminal speed, and failure to maintain control of a vehicle, among other infractions, Goulet said.
Deputies were searching for Tucker because of his involvement in a “domestic situation” in Casco earlier Sunday.
“Tucker made threats of going to a residence in Windham and causing harm,” Goulet said.
"When officers use a pursuit termination device, like a spike mat, other drivers are supposed to be kept far away from the area to avoid crashes, according to Hall. In this instance, everything happened too quickly and there were not enough officers available to do that," he added.
“Usually, when spike mats are deployed, it is rapidly unfolding,” Hall said. “We try to make it as safe as possible. If the suspect just drives over the strips, it is not a problem; if he tries to go around it or take other action, it becomes a problem."
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It's absolutely ridiculous to place blame on anyone but the speeding driver here. If the spike strip wasn't laid here, a ton of other worse things could have happened. Driver could have attempt to blow through a busy intersection and T-bone a vehicle or cause a collision at a high speed. Driver could be going through a neighbourhood or school zone with children playing in the streets. Instead, the car hit a spike strip that caused it to lose control and hit a parked car. Better to be hit by a sliding car in the safety of your vehicle vs. getting hit by a car at speed with nothing to protect you.
The people in the car definitely have grounds to sue. But if I was the one calling the shots, I would have risked a lawsuit by laying the spike strip there instead of risking the lives of other pedestrians.
The people in the car definitely have grounds to sue. But if I was the one calling the shots, I would have risked a lawsuit by laying the spike strip there instead of risking the lives of other pedestrians.
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Well, the girl that was sitting inside the car, when the video was taken, hit her head on something......we don't know how hard, or how bad, because the video cuts out too soon.
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