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Old 01-30-19, 04:19 PM
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People care today where vehicles are built? Nobody knows where their vehicles were built lol

As to your comment about the invitation to come and discuss. You keep on projecting this idea that the government has some control over GM. they don’t.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
People care today where vehicles are built? Nobody knows where their vehicles were built lol
I definitely think some people do care. I do. I like to be aware of where any of my purchases in life come from. Not saying it would make a difference in my purchase decision.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I definitely think some people do care. I do.

I like to be aware of where any of my purchases in life come from.


Right on.

Not saying it would make a difference in my purchase decision.
In the past, it didn't make very much difference with me, either. But times change. There is much more reason to be concerned today.

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I definitely think some people do care. I do. I like to be aware of where any of my purchases in life come from. Not saying it would make a difference in my purchase decision.
does it concern you then that your iphone is made at a city sized sweat shop in china?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
does it concern you then that your iphone is made at a city sized sweat shop in china?

These days, what isn't?
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does it concern you then that your iphone is made at a city sized sweat shop in china?
Yes it does/would
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Right on.



In the past, it didn't make very much difference with me, either. But times change. There is much more reason to be concerned today.
You had changed your original post. Manufacturing is adtualy better in the US than it was in the past. Add in the fact that car manufacturing is higher as well. Today, manufacturing is more efficient. Where the US/Canada continues to lead and always has lead is the manufacturing of advanced items and highly complicated products.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
You had changed your original post.
Yes, I edited it. It was probably a little more detailed than it needed to be.

Manufacturing is actually better in the US than it was in the past. Add in the fact that car manufacturing is higher as well. Today, manufacturing is more efficient. Where the US/Canada continues to lead and always has lead is the manufacturing of advanced items and highly complicated products.
The only (current) things that North America really leads the world in is the manufacture of transport/military aircraft and of agriculture, although the large Ukranian agricultural breadbasket is not far behind the American Midwest in that regard...one reason why Putin wants it so much.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes, I edited it. It was probably a little more detailed than it needed to be.



The only (current) things that North America really leads the world in is the manufacture of transport/military aircraft and of agriculture, although the large Ukranian agricultural breadbasket is not far behind the American Midwest in that regard...one reason why Putin wants it so much.


This is not true. The United States and Canada lead in many advanced manufacturing items

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
This is not true.
What's not true? The American economy, even today, is known for two things....aircraft and agriculture. True, Airbus has recently been a competitor, but Boeing and Lockheed-Martin have been world leaders for decades.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
What's not true? The American economy, .
We were not talking about the American econ, we were talking about America/Canada manufacturing and where thewe two countries lead. Think advanced manufacturing. The United States and Canada lead the world.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill


We were not talking about the American econ, we were talking about America/Canada manufacturing and where thewe two countries lead. Think advanced manufacturing. The United States and Canada lead the world.
........and just what are large jet aircraft, if not advanced manufacturing?

Anyhow, don't want to get too far off-topic....which, of course, is the auto industry, not aircraft or agriculture.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I definitely think some people do care. I do. I like to be aware of where any of my purchases in life come from. Not saying it would make a difference in my purchase decision.
For sure, some people care but I don't think theres any way to say "people care more nowadays than they used to". I see zero evidence of that, if anything its the exact opposite. We have example after example of companies moving production overseas and no sign that it impacts sales of those items produced at all.

If it wouldn't make a difference in your purchase decision BTW you don't actually care. For instance, my Dad drove American cars for decades because he didn't want to buy a foreign made car. Thats an example of actually caring.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
For sure, some people care but I don't think theres any way to say "people care more nowadays than they used to". I see zero evidence of that, if anything its the exact opposite. We have example after example of companies moving production overseas and no sign that it impacts sales of those items produced at all.
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I would agree there is very little evidence that more people care today than they did in the past.

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If it wouldn't make a difference in your purchase decision BTW you don't actually care.
I disagree with you, I do care and where something is made does have an influence, however not every circumstance is the same as one another, and you cannot make the domestic choice or non domestic choice if that is what you want to do each and every time. We have choices of where the car you purchase is made, we don't have much of a choice of where our cell phones/electronics are made etc. I would be reluctant to pay more for a cell phone because it was made in the United States vs if was made in China. I would also be reluctant to pay more for a Chinese car unless it was from a Chinese manufacturer which is currently not available. Does not mean I do not care.

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Yes it does/would
if it does/would ‘concern’ you that your iphone was made in a giant chinese sweatshop, but won’t influence your buying decision, then it really doesn’t matter, does it?

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The only (current) things that North America really leads the world in is the manufacture of transport/military aircraft and of agriculture,...
this is so wrong it has to be challenged. First of all, the thread topic, cars, are produced in massive numbers in the u.s., even by manufacturers not headquartered here. I wouldn’t be surprised for example if bmw makes the majority of all the vehicles it makes worldwide, in the u.s. bmw is certainly world class. Tesla is the world’s leading ev producer, and they’re made in california. There’s medical devices and equipment, world leading. Putting aside large hard goods though, the u.s. leads he world in the design, development and implementation of software, websites, movies, apps, etc. that is a vast industry worth more than the entire auto industry by far. There’s so many other things... vast world class wine industry, and foods...


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