Alex Dykes on why Genesis sales are temporarily delayed.
11-24-18, 04:52 PM
#46
Lexus Champion
No, I just want it recognized that he has no training or credentials etc (maybe he does but I cannot find it) Contrast that of Sofyan Bey, from Red Line Reviews, he at least has a B.A in Mass Communication and Media Studies. I do not like Redline Reviews all that much.
Some people just do not feel the need to advertise. For all you know, he may have a PhD. degree.
Before you go accusing people...
11-24-18, 05:04 PM
#47
Lexus Champion
Hyundai obviously bungled its Genesis rollout. There is no doubt about that and it almost comes down to cultural differences. The Korean corporate model vs a US capitalist model at the dealership level. Did Hyundai expect its US dealers to salute and follow orders with no pushback? The big problem is that you need to collaborate with your dealers. They're the ones who sell your product.
When you tell them they can't sell your cars because of their postal code or that they need to spend a ton of money to upgrade their dealerships with only a minimal amount of help from Hyundai, it's going to cause issues. Genesis was aimed at a very limited audience in very select areas, and that really ticked off dealers who wanted to hustle sales in Podunk, Wherever. Maybe it should have been explained properly to the national dealers council about the objectives of Genesis to avoid all of this mess.
When you tell them they can't sell your cars because of their postal code or that they need to spend a ton of money to upgrade their dealerships with only a minimal amount of help from Hyundai, it's going to cause issues. Genesis was aimed at a very limited audience in very select areas, and that really ticked off dealers who wanted to hustle sales in Podunk, Wherever. Maybe it should have been explained properly to the national dealers council about the objectives of Genesis to avoid all of this mess.
11-24-18, 05:24 PM
#48
Lexus Fanatic
How do you know that he has "no training or credentials etc"? Just because he does not advertise what credentials he has, it does not mean that he has absolutely no credentials.
Some people just do not feel the need to advertise. For all you know, he may have a PhD. degree.
Before you go accusing people...
Some people just do not feel the need to advertise. For all you know, he may have a PhD. degree.
Before you go accusing people...
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 11-24-18 at 06:19 PM.
11-24-18, 06:38 PM
#49
Lexus Fanatic
Sorry. I disagree. If Alex makes claims about something, I think it’s valid to ask about sources, nevertheless his credentials. I don’t think I accused anything. I am the only one asking about training or credentials because I think it is fair to ask. I would do the same thing with any of the you tubers. Perhaps I might a little to tough on Alex.
If you're going to say you're moving on...then move on...
11-25-18, 08:29 AM
#50
Lexus Fanatic
The You Tube platform can be a very dangerous service if people are not aware of how data analytics works on you. It is nice that these reviewers are enthusiasts and such, I enjoy many of the videos that are on there, however one should still be curious and question what they watch or read.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 11-25-18 at 08:37 AM.
11-25-18, 03:05 PM
#51
mmarshall it's not a completely stand-alone Lincoln dealer, It shares lot space with the Acura dealer. But the buildings are separate and it is not affiliated with any Ford dealer.
Its the same dealer group that's building the new Alfa/Maserati dealer, however once that's complete they are completely landlocked. Also, Lexus is across the street(different owner). So if they were to add Genesis to their portfolio they would have to find additional real estate somewhere else.
Its the same dealer group that's building the new Alfa/Maserati dealer, however once that's complete they are completely landlocked. Also, Lexus is across the street(different owner). So if they were to add Genesis to their portfolio they would have to find additional real estate somewhere else.
11-25-18, 04:57 PM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Its the same dealer group that's building the new Alfa/Maserati dealer, however once that's complete they are completely landlocked. Also, Lexus is across the street(different owner). So if they were to add Genesis to their portfolio they would have to find additional real estate somewhere else.
01-03-19, 03:27 PM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
well, now we're in the new year and hyundai/genesis is getting their dedicate dealers figured out in florida finally - i just checked and i have 5 dealers not too far away. my 'local' hyundai dealer, where i got my genesis, wasn't listed so i'll have to find out how that will work regarding service, but i assume they'll continue with the concierge service so i don't care (meaning i don't have to visit the dealer).
01-03-19, 04:44 PM
#54
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
well, now we're in the new year and hyundai/genesis is getting their dedicate dealers figured out in florida finally - i just checked and i have 5 dealers not too far away. my 'local' hyundai dealer, where i got my genesis, wasn't listed so i'll have to find out how that will work regarding service, but i assume they'll continue with the concierge service so i don't care (meaning i don't have to visit the dealer).
Do they come and do the oil changes in the driveway? Or just pick up the car, take it to the dealer, and bring it back? I imagine the labor itself probably isn't a big deal (On smaller vehicles, I've done oil changes myself at home). But used oil, by law, has to be disposed of only in certain places. I used to put it in the trunk, in a container, drive it down a half mile to the local service station, and pour it in the proper tank.
01-03-19, 04:55 PM
#55
When we were looking at the Santa Fe last week, I noticed our local dealer had 4 G70's on hand. A few weeks ago there was no mention of them being a Genesis dealer, which they are now. The sad thing is, the negotiation process we went through and finally had to walk away from, has put them on a "never step foot in again" dealer list with us. I really like their vehicles and when it's time to replace my ES, I will be shopping elsewhere.
01-03-19, 05:45 PM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
When we were looking at the Santa Fe last week, I noticed our local dealer had 4 G70's on hand. A few weeks ago there was no mention of them being a Genesis dealer, which they are now. The sad thing is, the negotiation process we went through and finally had to walk away from, has put them on a "never step foot in again" dealer list with us. I really like their vehicles and when it's time to replace my ES, I will be shopping elsewhere.
01-03-19, 05:57 PM
#57
Lexus Champion
When we were looking at the Santa Fe last week, I noticed our local dealer had 4 G70's on hand. A few weeks ago there was no mention of them being a Genesis dealer, which they are now. The sad thing is, the negotiation process we went through and finally had to walk away from, has put them on a "never step foot in again" dealer list with us. I really like their vehicles and when it's time to replace my ES, I will be shopping elsewhere.
01-03-19, 07:23 PM
#58
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01-03-19, 07:31 PM
#59
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Again, wth all due respect, I don't see why you would say it's not a serious question. Many people who work on vehicles, such as glass/window replacement, dent-removal services, mobile vehicle-detailers, etc....come and do it at your home or office. Many people simply want convenience nowadays. My brother, in fact, used one of those mobile-detail services, and was very happy with it, though, I, of course, help him do some things myself.
01-03-19, 07:51 PM
#60
Lexus Fanatic
Again, wth all due respect, I don't see why you would say it's not a serious question. Many people who work on vehicles, such as glass/window replacement, dent-removal services, mobile vehicle-detailers, etc....come and do it at your home or office. Many people simply want convenience nowadays. My brother, in fact, used one of those mobile-detail services, and was very happy with it, though, I, of course, help him do some things myself.