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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 05:46 AM
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Remember, like 140k people a year make the choice to forgo more cargo capacity and buy the CX-5. Remember that most crossover buyers are just previous sedan buyers, they buy crossovers for the upright seating position, go anywhere traction, more adaptable cargo area, etc. I've bought multiple SUVs in my life and I've never even looked at the cargo capacity, its just not something that's a huge deal to me.
Sure, there will always be a some that forgo the larger size, but between Rogue, Rav4 and CRV, that is about 1.2 million units, 95% of the people will take the larger size interior including all the safety tech that is standard on some or almost standard on these three. The Mazda is missing a lot of tech that is either not offered or is not standard. I don't view the CX-5 as the best in the segment.

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Sure, there will always be a some that forgo the larger size, but between Rogue, Rav4 and CRV, that is about 1.2 million units, 95% of the people will take the larger size interior including all the safety tech that is standard on some or almost standard on these three. The Mazda is missing a lot of tech that is either not offered or is not standard. I don't view the CX-5 as the best in the segment.
If there are 1.2 M units sold in the segment then 140k units is over 10%, not 5%.

Thats why there are choices. Some people want the most practical vehicle they can get, and some people value style and refinement and other things over practicality.

if everybody wanted the most interior space they could get for the money over everything else they would all drive minivans, not crossovers.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
If there are 1.2 M units sold in the segment then 140k units is over 10%, not 5%.
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I just estimated the 1.2 year to date, I did not take the number literally.. So perhaps its 10%. Why don't we say the top 4 best selling cross-overs, Rav4, Rogue, CRV and Escape. Its about dead on 10%, the CX5 is a complete no-no for 9 out of 10 people.

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if everybody wanted the most interior space they could get for the money over everything else they would all drive minivans, not crossovers.
Its not just interior space, I never claimed it was only about interior space. Its other things, the Mazda Cx5 does not even have standard auto on/off headlights. (among other missing features)

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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 06:22 AM
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We're on our third CUV and when we bought each of them there were other choices that offered more space, options, amenities etc. We've all been through it, you choose the one that overall meets your needs and appeals to you the most. Having all of these choices is great for the consumer. My choice in this discussion is the CX-5. Same with my wife.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 06:27 AM
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We're on our third CUV and when we bought each of them there were other choices that offered more space, options, amenities etc. We've all been through it, you choose the one that overall meets your needs and appeals to you the most. Having all of these choices is great for the consumer. My choice in this discussion is the CX-5. Same with my wife.
For sure. Great post (although I have no idea what CUV you actually own, so there is no reference) Right now, I would go with Rogue. If I could get it for 0% I have never really liked the current Rav4, so I could see a CX5 being more appealing than a Rav4. Definitely a CX5 over the Lexus NX

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Having put 1000 miles on a Rogue, I would never buy a Rogue. Way too underpowered.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Seriously?!?! I've driven 4 or 5 CX-5s, from this new generation and the previous generation and I think they ride great. Very soft and smooth and premium feeling.
To be fair, the CX-5 that I was in was a 2017. Have they improved that much? Don't get me wrong, it was a solid car but, oh God, that ride was just too harsh. Ignoring my bicycle comment for a minute, in reality, I have not ridden in a stiffer automobile in my life. Oh, wait, I think the Suzuki Samurai was stiffer, but not by much. We have relatively smooth roads, here in Florida and I just could not stand the crushing ride, way over the top.

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To be fair, the CX-5 that I was in was a 2017. Have they improved that much? Don't get me wrong, it was a solid car but, oh God, that ride was just too harsh. Ignoring my bicycle comment for a minute, in reality, I have not ridden in a stiffer automobile in my life. Oh, wait, I think the Suzuki Samurai was stiffer, but not by much. We have relatively smooth roads, here in Florida and I just could not stand the crushing ride, way over the top.
I think for 2018 they might of softened up the ride a bit. Disappointing to hear about the ride. The Rogue I found had a lovely ride and was just so easy going.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
To be fair, the CX-5 that I was in was a 2017. Have they improved that much? Don't get me wrong, it was a solid car but, oh God, that ride was just too harsh. Ignoring my bicycle comment for a minute, in reality, I have not ridden in a stiffer automobile in my life. Oh, wait, I think the Suzuki Samurai was stiffer, but not by much. We have relatively smooth roads, here in Florida and I just could not stand the crushing ride, way over the top.
Were the (cold) tire pressures OK? Too much air in the tires (especially with a cold suspension and shock-fluid) will definitely stiffen things up. The proper cold pressure (after sitting overnight or in the shade for three hours) can usually be found in one of three places.....a sign on the lower part of the driver's door-jamb, in the glove box, or, once in a while, underhood. It is normal for pressures to increase with heat (1 PSI for every 10 degrees of air temperature), direct sunlight, and as they roll during warmup.
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Were the (cold) tire pressures OK? Too much air in the tires (especially with a cold suspension and shock-fluid) will definitely stiffen things up. The proper cold pressure (after sitting overnight or in the shade for three hours) can usually be found in one of three places.....a sign on the lower part of the driver's door-jamb, in the glove box, or, once in a while, underhood. It is normal for pressures to increase with heat (1 PSI for every 10 degrees of air temperature), direct sunlight, and as they roll during warmup.
Looks like the newer 2018 model has a better ride quality set up than the previous 2017 and earlier models. One of your favorite publications CR calls the ride one of the most comfortable in the segment and make it clear that sound levels were of particular concern and had been addressed. For the Rogue, the ride is more comfortable than usual in the class. Then for the Rav4, it has a kinder more gentle suspension for an improved ride. At the end of the day, almost anything in the segment you really can't go wrong with, I question the overall size of the CX-5 utility. Personally, I really like the design of the Rogue the best.

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Personally, I really like the design of the Rogue the best.
The Rogue seems to be quite popular, perhaps because of its low price. Several of my neighbors have bought one within the last year or so....and a couple of others the smaller Rogue Sport. If that sounds like a lot, though, consider that we have over 250 town houses in our condo-development, many of them with multiple vehicles per unit.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The Rogue seems to be quite popular, perhaps because of its low price. .
It’s the best selling cuv in the segment. Hard to go wrong with it. I think all of the prices are close.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
It’s the best selling cuv in the segment. Hard to go wrong with it.
From what I can tell, the Rogue is in the same segment as the RAV-4, and nothing outsells the RAV-4 in that segment. Sales of the RAV-4 have been simply insane......it is now the #3 selling vehicle in the U.S., behind the F-150 and Silverado/Sierra.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
From what I can tell, the Rogue is in the same segment as the RAV-4, and nothing outsells the RAV-4 in that segment..
The Rogue is the best selling cross-over in the segment.
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Thru October sales of the big three: CR-V 305,446 (-1%), Rogue 337,727 (+3%), RAV4 353,151 (+2%). I don't know how each finished 2017.
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