Tesla Sales Soaring, Competition Failing
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How are they going to satisfy demand for a hot-selling SUV when it took them almost two years to start filling just the Model-3 deliveries alone?
Plus, Musk has the Government coming after him for something every time he sneezes LOL.
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The Tesla Model S sold so well - that back in December 2016, Toyota Motor Corporation President Akio Toyoda set up an Electric Division for TMC.
Now, the Tesla Model 3 sales should give President Akio a second stab in the back to really make sure Toyota Motor Corporation wakes up with regards to electric vehicles.
Now, the Tesla Model 3 sales should give President Akio a second stab in the back to really make sure Toyota Motor Corporation wakes up with regards to electric vehicles.
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The Tesla Model S sold so well - that back in December 2016, Toyota Motor Corporation President Akio Toyoda set up an Electric Division for TMC.
Now, the Tesla Model 3 sales should give President Akio a second stab in the back to really make sure Toyota Motor Corporation wakes up with regards to electric vehicles.
Now, the Tesla Model 3 sales should give President Akio a second stab in the back to really make sure Toyota Motor Corporation wakes up with regards to electric vehicles.
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You can have a successful product without losing billions, production problems, subpar quality and blaming birds on the trees for your problems.
And all you got, as a customer, with Tesla not having independent dealers is long service times, long delivery times and very expensive service where they charge you a minimum of $600 to check your car, without replacing any parts.
It is basically like a worst dealer nightmare you can have - it takes very long time to schedule service, it takes very long time for new vehicle deliveries and they charge outrageous $600 per year for not changing oil. All it does is keep more money in Tesla's pockets and we as customers suffer.
And all you got, as a customer, with Tesla not having independent dealers is long service times, long delivery times and very expensive service where they charge you a minimum of $600 to check your car, without replacing any parts.
It is basically like a worst dealer nightmare you can have - it takes very long time to schedule service, it takes very long time for new vehicle deliveries and they charge outrageous $600 per year for not changing oil. All it does is keep more money in Tesla's pockets and we as customers suffer.
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The last of the $7,500 tax credits will expire after 2018. For the first six months of 2019, the credit will be $3,750 and the last six months it will be $1,750. This will crush sales. The Model X rated by Consumer Reports as the least reliable vehicle on the road at well over $100,000 will dye a fast death. The Jaguar I-Pace and Audi E-Tron are both $25,000 cheaper with a full $7,500 tax credit. Both will be considerably more reliable and way better looking inside and out. Mercedes in 2019, will being coming out with an electric SUV that will even be cheaper than the Model X. The Model 3 interior looks as luxurious as an amusement park bumper car.
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The last of the $7,500 tax credits will expire after 2018. For the first six months of 2019, the credit will be $3,750 and the last six months it will be $1,750. This will crush sales. The Model X rated by Consumer Reports as the least reliable vehicle on the road at well over $100,000 will dye a fast death. The Jaguar I-Pace and Audi E-Tron are both $25,000 cheaper with a full $7,500 tax credit. Both will be considerably more reliable and way better looking inside and out. Mercedes in 2019, will being coming out with an electric SUV that will even be cheaper than the Model X. The Model 3 interior looks as luxurious as an amusement park bumper car.
And I'm not sure how anyone can say that a Jaguar, Audi, or any other brand who has never made a 100% EV "will be considerably more reliable". What are you basing this on when the brand has no history of knowing what it takes to produce a reliable EV? Not to mention Jaguar has never been the definition of reliability in any category.... I feel like I'm re-living "the next iPhone killer" from 5 years ago when every new non-Apple phone came out would have people claiming the death of Apple. For some reason, some people love to ignore the data and statistics of sales and market share within the segment. Customers are voting with their wallets, and just as they did with the iPhone, they're flocking to Tesla.
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The last of the $7,500 tax credits will expire after 2018. For the first six months of 2019, the credit will be $3,750 and the last six months it will be $1,750. This will crush sales. The Model X rated by Consumer Reports as the least reliable vehicle on the road at well over $100,000 will dye a fast death. The Jaguar I-Pace and Audi E-Tron are both $25,000 cheaper with a full $7,500 tax credit. Both will be considerably more reliable and way better looking inside and out. Mercedes in 2019, will being coming out with an electric SUV that will even be cheaper than the Model X. The Model 3 interior looks as luxurious as an amusement park bumper car.
Nobody is relying on this $7,500 to move sales.
Its not positioned in the market as a value play a la Infiniti/Acura etc or a cheaper electric alternative.
It sells on technology, performance and design. Consumers will always overpay for the best, newest tech and brand image. All of which Tesla has in spades.
People I know that buy these are wealthier folks who have MB, BMW, Porsche etc.
Also millennials who are making good $$$ and want to make a statement.
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That should propel them to exponential growth over next 5 years.
People should be supporting Tesla, an American company that is revolutionizing the auto industry from scratch.
Even if the company fails today its already an amazing story and success.
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You can have a successful product without losing billions, production problems, subpar quality and blaming birds on the trees for your problems.
And all you got, as a customer, with Tesla not having independent dealers is long service times, long delivery times and very expensive service where they charge you a minimum of $600 to check your car, without replacing any parts.
It is basically like a worst dealer nightmare you can have - it takes very long time to schedule service, it takes very long time for new vehicle deliveries and they charge outrageous $600 per year for not changing oil. All it does is keep more money in Tesla's pockets and we as customers suffer.
And all you got, as a customer, with Tesla not having independent dealers is long service times, long delivery times and very expensive service where they charge you a minimum of $600 to check your car, without replacing any parts.
It is basically like a worst dealer nightmare you can have - it takes very long time to schedule service, it takes very long time for new vehicle deliveries and they charge outrageous $600 per year for not changing oil. All it does is keep more money in Tesla's pockets and we as customers suffer.
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The average price Model 3 is $59,000. A $7,500 tax credit is 13% off. I will bet you what happens to their sales when the tax credit is gone. Who in their right mind would buy a Model X for over $100,000 over the Jaguar, Audi or Mercedes for $75,000 with an additional $7,500 off.
Last edited by bitkahuna; Oct 17, 2018 at 12:46 PM.
The average price Model 3 is $59,000. A $7,500 tax credit is 13% off. I will bet you what happens to their sales when the tax credit is gone. Who in their right mind would buy a Model X for over $100,000 over the Jaguar, Audi or Mercedes for $75,000 with an additional $7,500 off.
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Do you know what a metaphor is?
Toyota products are great, and I own lots of them, but can you be unbiased for once, rather than constantly sell me a Toyota product?
That is an interesting point.
This and backlog could be the reason behind ramped up sales - will be interesting to see how long this keeps up as tax credits fall, and competitors move in.
Toyota products are great, and I own lots of them, but can you be unbiased for once, rather than constantly sell me a Toyota product?
The last of the $7,500 tax credits will expire after 2018. For the first six months of 2019, the credit will be $3,750 and the last six months it will be $1,750. This will crush sales. The Model X rated by Consumer Reports as the least reliable vehicle on the road at well over $100,000 will dye a fast death. The Jaguar I-Pace and Audi E-Tron are both $25,000 cheaper with a full $7,500 tax credit. Both will be considerably more reliable and way better looking inside and out. Mercedes in 2019, will being coming out with an electric SUV that will even be cheaper than the Model X. The Model 3 interior looks as luxurious as an amusement park bumper car.
This and backlog could be the reason behind ramped up sales - will be interesting to see how long this keeps up as tax credits fall, and competitors move in.
Paying employees OT to hand deliver the cars was also a big reason they hit such a high number