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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 04:02 PM
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We get it you don't like Tesla.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 04:55 PM
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We get it you don't like Tesla.
We get it you miss Lexus from the 2000's /s.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 04:59 PM
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EV's are certainly very efficient engines with explosive 0-60 mph acceleration, however the real reason why the market is purchasing Tesla EV's like hot cakes is thanks to their "combination" of: performance, refinement, and efficiency in recharging and maintenance/repairs.
This combination of strengths is enough to overcome some of EV and more in particular Tesla's severe deficiencies - to sell like hot cakes.

EV is certainly here to stay.
However, whether Tesla also stays depends very much on how quickly the big players can fight back to prevent Tesla from developing a footing in the black.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 05:08 PM
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EV's are certainly very efficient engines with explosive 0-60 mph acceleration, however the real reason why the market is purchasing Tesla EV's like hot cakes is thanks to their "combination" of: performance, refinement, and efficiency in recharging and maintenance/repairs.
This combination of strengths is enough to overcome some of EV and more in particular Tesla's severe deficiencies - to sell like hot cakes.

EV is certainly here to stay.
However, whether Tesla also stays depends very much on how quickly the big players can fight back to prevent Tesla from developing a footing in the black.
Especially if they can launch a new electric car with new battery tech within the next 10 years. Then they will have the edge in the competition for the coming years.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JapanTT
We get it you miss Lexus from the 2000's /s.
Wow this was your 1st post lol.
Who doesn’t miss Lexus from 2000s, up to the Lfinesse era - those cars were some of the best built in terms of quality/fit finish of any automakers.......I personally miss the ones from the 90s also.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 06:49 PM
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I wanted to start it off in memory lane.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JapanTT
Especially if they can launch a new electric car with new battery tech within the next 10 years. Then they will have the edge in the competition for the coming years.
To take on the big players, Tesla will be wasting their time trying to do 0-60 in 1.0 second flat! Consumers are not interested in this kind of nonsense.
To take on the big players, Tesla's job will be to show more experience & refinement in the design and production of their motor vehicles like the established big players.
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
We get it you don't like Tesla.
I love it. Anytime I post a negative thing about Tesla, automatically from the Tesla fan-base I get called a hater.

But when I post something positive - it goes unnoticed. Lol. Its so reactionary to defend Tesla that they can't do no wrong.

Note - some of the things I said (on CL Car Chat) Tesla got right:
1) Digital Key using bluetooth technology. Tesla does it better than BMW.
2) Model X key fob is unique and nice. We need more unique key fobs.
3) Autopilot - despite its faulty advertisement its one of the best out there.
4) Supercharger network.
5) Revolutionized the car industry towards EV.
and etc...

So next time - next time - someone says something negative about Tesla is not about hating on your lovely brand. Its call criticism. And criticism is needed to make a company better.
IE: Just like how the negative flack from the consumer based on the F30 pushed BMW to make a better 3 Series (G20).
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Old Oct 23, 2018 | 07:00 AM
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Tesla’s ‘Dog Mode’ is another example that gets car buyers to notice Tesla. They can refine and do software feature updates to improve the current car experience.

It's making the car more 'smart' every 4-6 months. Over the air updates are what Apple users are accustomed to for iOS and app updates.

Car software engineering will be a very big deal in the next 10-15 years to process car environment, engine, and safety data.

Car Apps will become a bigger thing as it will force some standardization of software communications/controls/electronics within an OEM vehicle family (eg Honda, Acura, Toyota, Lexus, Cadillac).

There will always be a niche for old school cars and mechanical buttons everywhere. The early bird mfr's succeeding at making their car smart are going to shape 21st century transportation.
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 05:37 AM
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A few recent Tweets from Musk that I find interesting.

1) "Get this question a lot, so need to clarify that there's no such thing as a Tesla 'refresh.' Other car companies do this every ~ 3 years, but Tesla constantly upgrades vehicle hardware every week."

2) "To simplify production, many Tesla model S & X interior configs will no longer be available after Nov 1. Order now to be sure of the one you want."

3) "Order Tesla without a test drive & you get 3 days to return for refund, else 1 day."
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by All4Lexus

It's making the car more 'smart' every 4-6 months. Over the air updates are what Apple users are accustomed to for iOS and app updates.

I would never want to ever buy a car with stuff such as an the over the air update. Stuff like that is not good.


Until the over the air update does not work. My Apple TV, out of warranty is stuck in a over the air update loop which has made the Apple TV useless.

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3) "Order Tesla without a test drive & you get 3 days to return for refund, else 1 day."
Because there is very few places to test drive a Tesla. Of course they need to offer something like this.

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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 09:45 AM
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Because there is very few places to test drive a Tesla. Of course they need to offer something like this.
This is one of the biggest issues with the Tesla model. There is a lack of a test drive and service location. These services are only offered in major cities.

Currently - there biggest consumers are from the cities. If they want to ever compete with the biggest car manufacturers, they shouldn't force their consumers to travel miles from their house to a service location. There are people in the mid-east and mid-west that have to travel hundreds of miles to a service center because that's the only one in the state.
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BippuLexus
This is one of the biggest issues with the Tesla model. There is a lack of a test drive and service location. These services are only offered in major cities.

Currently - there biggest consumers are from the cities. If they want to ever compete with the biggest car manufacturers, they shouldn't force their consumers to travel miles from their house to a service location. There are people in the mid-east and mid-west that have to travel hundreds of miles to a service center because that's the only one in the state.
Not IMO. Somewhere between 80% to 90% of service is performed using WiFi and software updates and remote fixes (that's absolutely incredible if you think about it). In addition, they have a mobile service which comes to you for things that can't be fixed over WiFi.
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
Not IMO. Somewhere between 80% to 90% of service is performed using WiFi and software updates and remote fixes (that's absolutely incredible if you think about it). In addition, they have a mobile service which comes to you for things that can't be fixed over WiFi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4vGHsWXJPE
Not true. 80% to 90% of the service is performed using WiFi are the software fixes.

I'm talking about mechanical fixes and car issues. IE: Not properly lined body work, seat function problems, steering wheel problems, and etc... Normal car problems that doesn't relate to software.

Yeah. I have heard about the mobile service. However - this mobile service is not offered everywhere and they have a specific amount of miles you have to be in range of.

Also - I think Tesla needs to also offer parts that is from 3rd party vendors. As of right now, I think Tesla only sells parts directly. So if you buy a used Tesla, you can't order parts yourself to fix it unless its from Tesla.
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BippuLexus
Not true. 80% to 90% of the service is performed using WiFi are the software fixes.

I'm talking about mechanical fixes and car issues. IE: Not properly lined body work, seat function problems, steering wheel problems, and etc... Normal car problems that doesn't relate to software.

Yeah. I have heard about the mobile service. However - this mobile service is not offered everywhere and they have a specific amount of miles you have to be in range of.
No, what I posted is true. Service is service - meaning anything wrong with the car that requires something to be fixed is documented as service. That can be cosmetic, mechanical, etc. Tesla's don't have all of the same "normal car problems" as you put it. Here are the stats straight from Tesla's website:
- 80% of repairs can be done without going to a service center
- 90% of the time Tesla can remotely diagnose an issue and know what needs to be done to repair it (ie before determining the method to repair --over-the-air update, mobile service, service center).
- 100% mobile service coverage

So at least 80% of the time that you need anything done to your Tesla, you don't have to take it to a service center. If you watch the video I posted you'll see the mobile service tech fixes an interior cosmetic issue and replaces a trunk actuator. At the owner's house...

80% odds I never have to go to a service center sound fantastic to me.
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