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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OG Member
Looking to add a bit of structure to this spirited conversation:
  • Would it be more effective if we made it model vs. model instead of model (ZR1) vs brand (Ferrari)
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I just chose top ZR1 as I have no idea what the top spec Ferrari is. So perhaps we can just say Corvette vs Ferrari.

Looking at the numbers from this Motortrend article, the Corvette looks pretty good. http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsc...11-carrera-4s/
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
But your initial question was about "engineering", not about power.
They should be related and discussed together in context with one another.
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"Better" is a strong word. I would argue that a Corvette is certainly not "better" than any Ferrari, the Ferrari will always be more special, more bespoke...just an entirely different thing. The only way the Corvette would be "better" is if all you had enough money for was a Corvette.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 11:38 AM
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OHV certainly works and GM has gotten the most out of it, but it is not perceived as the current standard, whereas “all the good cars” so to speak have OHC designs.

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Why does a OHV not compete? The power and performance are stunning. Are they not?
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 11:41 AM
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OHV certainly works and GM has gotten the most out of it, but it is not perceived as the current standard, whereas “all the good cars” so to speak have OHC designs.


So perception vs reality?
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 11:53 AM
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When the mid-engine C8 'Emperor / Zora' Corvette comes to fruition, then it may have a chance. The 488 and 812 are formidable.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill


So perception vs reality?

I think it is more than that.

Even generic motors will be going to OHC for the mid engine Vette.

Ferrari is coveted for design, engineering, craftspersonship (although they are big into robots for stuff below a LaFerrari), racing heritage.

A Vette has been a value play.

i would ask that you visit both a Chevy store and a Ferrari Atelier and then come back to us with your impressions.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350



I think it is more than that.

Even generic motors will be going to OHC for the mid engine Vette.

Ferrari is coveted for design, engineering, craftspersonship
But why then? Nobody is elaborating. The performance seems to be the same
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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Driving a Vette means you like really, really good performance.

Driving a Ferrari means you like really, really good performance and you also want to let others know you have a ton of money. Simple as that.

If folks complain that the interior of a Vette is plain, why aren't there aftermarket vendors who specialize in crafting gorgeous Vette interiors? I would imagine $20K would buy a lot of gorgeous, and then the Vette would be much nicer overall and still a fraction of the cost of the Ferrari.

Why do folks call a pushrod engine an "OHV" engine? All modern engines have overhead valves.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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There's truth on both sides here. The Corvette, for decades, especially its top-dog versions, has had a long-standing reputation of being able to go toe-to-toe with some of Europe's finest on the track.....at half the price or less. But it is also true that, as several people have pointed out, in the field of craftsmanship and engineering, there is a reason why the Italian exotics cost what they do, though reliability, in the typical Italian tradition, often suffers. People who pay that kind of money for a car, though (and who can afford to pay that kind of money LOL) are probably not too concerned with what it costs for repairs, nor, given the fact that they probably don't use these cars a daily-drivers, if they are in the shop 50% of the time waiting for parts.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
There's truth on both sides here. The Corvette, for decades, especially its top-dog versions, has had a long-standing reputation of being able to go toe-to-toe with some of Europe's finest on the track.....at half the price or less. But it is also true that, as several people have pointed out, in the field of craftsmanship and engineering, there is a reason why the Italian exotics cost what they do, though reliability, in the typical Italian tradition, often suffers. People who pay that kind of money for a car, though (and who can afford to pay that kind of money LOL) are probably not too concerned with what it costs for repairs, nor, given the fact that they probably don't use these cars a daily-drivers, if they are in the shop 50% of the time waiting for parts.
Agreed.

To these rich folks - a Ferrari is merely a toy.
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Ferrari's pedigree and heritage alone puts it at levels a Corvette will never reach, regardless of performance numbers. Ferrari's are some of the most sought after automobiles.

F40, F50, Enzo, LaFerrari....This isn't even debatable.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BippuLexus
Agreed.

To these rich folks - a Ferrari is merely a toy.
The Corvette is also a toy. It is just a cheaper toy.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TEXASMAJOR
Ferrari's pedigree and heritage alone puts it at levels a Corvette will never reach, regardless of performance numbers. Ferrari's are some of the most sought after automobiles.

F40, F50, Enzo, LaFerrari....This isn't even debatable.
If it isn't debatable, we wouldn't be having this thread.....or this discussion.
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Old Jun 13, 2018 | 07:52 PM
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It's not debatable.

If someone drives a Corolla and a Matrix (remember I had a Vibe AWD) and doesn't do any home work on what the world of Ferrari is all about and adds a lot of uninformed pushing back when folks are trying to politely be clear about Ferraris and Vettes being in 2 parallel universes (I know that a bunch of folks own both), we get threads like this.
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