CR ranks Genesis brand tops
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CR ranks Genesis brand tops
Wow. Genesis brand ranks above Audi, BMW, and Lexus. If that wasn't surprising enough, Lexus is behind BMW, according to Consumer Reports, in areas of owner satisfaction and reliability !?!?
http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...brand-rankings
http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...brand-rankings
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Take it with a grain of salt. Genesis barely sells any vehicles compared to Lexus and Audi. So if a few people chimed in to say they had the best experience, it's going to tweak the rankings. I think these things should also be based on amount sold, which says something about people's preferences.
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Well, in this case, that grain of salt may dissolve pretty quickly. Have you gone to a Genesis dealer and looked at or test-driven any?. These cars are built like Swiss Watches....with excellent materials.
If I had chosen a vehicle simply by overall build quality (In my case, there were other factors as well), I would have chosen a G80 over my Lacrosse.
If I had chosen a vehicle simply by overall build quality (In my case, there were other factors as well), I would have chosen a G80 over my Lacrosse.
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Agreed. CR is mostly full of crap. What I would like them to do is to provide their data so someone who can interrupt it correctly. Claiming that a brand with no actual dealers, and just two models and ranking it higher than an established brand needs to have some sort of statistical significance to back it up. But CR won’t show their data, so we just don’t know.
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No offense, but accusing CR of being full of four-letter words accomplishes nothing. All you have to do is read. CR explains, in detail, in each auto-buying-guide issue each year, exactly how they do their surveys, how many responses they typically get, how the information is processed into categories, and what the statistics mean. I don't necessarily agree with everything they publish myself.....but they are an organization worthy of respect. That's why they have been around, rating cars, since 1936....more than 80 years.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
No offense, but accusing CR of being full of four-letter words accomplishes nothing. All you have to do is read. CR explains, in detail, in each auto-buying-guide issue each year, exactly how they do their surveys, how many responses they typically get, how the information is processed into categories, and what the statistics mean. I don't necessarily agree with everything they publish myself.....but they are an organization worthy of respect. That's why they have been around, rating cars, since 1936....more than 80 years.
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Well, in this case, that grain of salt may dissolve pretty quickly. Have you gone to a Genesis dealer and looked at or test-driven any?. These cars are built like Swiss Watches....with excellent materials.
If I had chosen a vehicle simply by overall build quality (In my case, there were other factors as well), I would have chosen a G80 over my Lacrosse.
If I had chosen a vehicle simply by overall build quality (In my case, there were other factors as well), I would have chosen a G80 over my Lacrosse.
Brand Value is something that still plays a huge role....Cadillac CTS/ATS Lexus IS/GS...its a long upward battle that even established players like Lexus have not been able to crack....and they had a quite a headstart over Genesis the subbrand of a car company which in early 2000s were producing tin cans at basement prices...
Props to Hyundai going after the market, but long way to go before actually being considered anything but an weekend corporate outing. They need to launch their Crossovers ASAP, or they`ll loose out the gravy train which is the current SUV/Xover market
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Well, in this case, that grain of salt may dissolve pretty quickly. Have you gone to a Genesis dealer and looked at or test-driven any?. These cars are built like Swiss Watches....with excellent materials.
If I had chosen a vehicle simply by overall build quality (In my case, there were other factors as well), I would have chosen a G80 over my Lacrosse.
If I had chosen a vehicle simply by overall build quality (In my case, there were other factors as well), I would have chosen a G80 over my Lacrosse.
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Take it with a grain of salt. Genesis barely sells any vehicles compared to Lexus and Audi. So if a few people chimed in to say they had the best experience, it's going to tweak the rankings. I think these things should also be based on amount sold, which says something about people's preferences.
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Wow. Genesis brand ranks above Audi, BMW, and Lexus. If that wasn't surprising enough, Lexus is behind BMW, according to Consumer Reports, in areas of owner satisfaction and reliability !?!?
http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...brand-rankings
http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...brand-rankings
"Genesis, with just two models tested by Consumer Reports, had less to get right to place first in the magazine's latest brand rankings, where it excelled in road testing and owner satisfaction scores, and produced average reliability.The magazine said Lexus stood out in the rankings more for its reliability and standard advanced safety features than its road test scores, which often have trailed rivals.Toyota Motor Corp. took four of 10 slots in the magazine's annual ranking of vehicles, the most of any manufacturer, with the Toyota Camry taking the highest honors.Toyota was cited for "impressive reliability and standard automatic emergency braking and forward collision warning," throughout its lineup, the magazine said."
