tex2670

Touche. ...

mmarshall

No, I didn't know you owned a Legacy wagon.....congratulations. The Legacy wagon never went over very well here in the States. Most buyers wanted the extra ground clearance for heavy snow that the Outback provided, and the Legacy wagon was dropped....along with its (brief) opposite-nemesis, the Outback SUS (Sport-Utility Sedan).

Outbacks, of course, despite their image and stereotype, are popular with more than just tree-huggers and skiers. There's a million of them, for example, old and new, running around the D.C. area here where I live. They popular with people from many walks of life.

IMO, the Forester straddles the line between what would be considered a CUV and a raised-suspension wagon like the Outback. Both today's Forester and Outback, of course, are considerably larger than they were back when each debuted in the 1990s.


Thanks. That site does look interesting.

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

The first generation Forester may have been lower and straddled the line but the current generation Forester is a CUV. A picture is worth a thousand words. Nothing 'wagon' about it other than 4-doors and a hatch. If you believe the above is a wagon then EVERY CUV and SUV in the market is a wagon by your definition. The denial needs to stop.

mmarshall

Denial on my part? LOL.

Frankly, I don't happen to be one of them, but there are those, even in the auto industry, who don't even consider unibody crossover AWD vehicles to be SUVs to start with. That goes a little further than I would classify it, but, with them, it is a reality.

MattyG

It's not aimed at Subaru or Audi buyers. This is Buick trying to get a bit of the Volvo wagon market. Volvos have a wagon heritage from a long time ago. You undercut the Chinese made Volvo and tell potential buyers you have a German wagon for less money, maybe you get some sales. You get awd and a V6 vs the Volvo's starting point. The Volvo offers a plug in hybrid, which would really help the Buick if they did that too.

No need for painting after you buy it to cover up the wheel well cladding. It's included for free.
Volvo V60



Buick

mmarshall

Possibly. An interesting comparison you make to the V60...except that high-end AWD versions of the V60 have a significantly higher base price than even the top-line Tour-X. Also, all of the Volvos, by the company's own announcement, are going to be made into hybrids inside of two years..that's not going to be the case with Buicks.

MattyG

Which is why the Tourx might be the value buy for the few wagon buyers in the US. Subaru is now into fancied up crossovers which sit much higher for ground clearance. Their wagon image has been shed at this point. So you have the remaining wagons here which won't run up dollar count. Volvo is doing more in the drive train department vs Buick. Like I said, put some GM plug in electric/hybrid tech and you might have a unique contender.