Michelin crossclimate +
12-23-17, 09:25 AM
#5
Lexus Fanatic
Sounds interesting but is winter/snow performance as good or better then a decent all season tire like Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 or is the cross climate simply a summer tire that is still decent in the winter/snow but not as good as a dedicated all season tire?
I would love a all season tire that could be put especially on RWD cars located in areas with moderate to heavier snow that handled decently in all seasons but were almost as good as a dedicated snow tire in the winter. It would solve so many problems of not really needing awd or snow tires in the winter especially for rwd cars in areas that get more snow. I am surprised something like that has not come out yet by now.
I would love a all season tire that could be put especially on RWD cars located in areas with moderate to heavier snow that handled decently in all seasons but were almost as good as a dedicated snow tire in the winter. It would solve so many problems of not really needing awd or snow tires in the winter especially for rwd cars in areas that get more snow. I am surprised something like that has not come out yet by now.
12-23-17, 09:31 AM
#6
Sounds interesting but is winter/snow performance as good or better then a decent all season tire like Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 or is the cross climate simply a summer tire that is still decent in the winter/snow but not as good as a dedicated all season tire?
I would love a all season tire that could be put especially on RWD cars located in areas with moderate to heavier snow that handled decently in all seasons but were almost as good as a dedicated snow tire in the winter. It would solve so many problems of not really needing awd or snow tires in the winter especially for rwd cars in areas that get more snow. I am surprised something like that has not come out yet by now.
I would love a all season tire that could be put especially on RWD cars located in areas with moderate to heavier snow that handled decently in all seasons but were almost as good as a dedicated snow tire in the winter. It would solve so many problems of not really needing awd or snow tires in the winter especially for rwd cars in areas that get more snow. I am surprised something like that has not come out yet by now.
Read about the nokian wrg3, cross climate, toyo Celsius that's what this tire is. That's what the all weather category is about.
Last edited by Coleroad; 12-23-17 at 09:43 AM.
12-23-17, 10:08 AM
#7
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so i was looking at discount tire and the P7 and they have cinturato, citurato plus and cinturato strada all rated at 70k miles the plus is $30 cheaper per tire than the regular cinturato and the strada is most expensive at $156
i am so confused why cinturato plus is $30 cheaper that regular cinturato
i am so confused why cinturato plus is $30 cheaper that regular cinturato
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12-23-17, 06:16 PM
#8
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Sounds interesting but is winter/snow performance as good or better then a decent all season tire like Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 or is the cross climate simply a summer tire that is still decent in the winter/snow but not as good as a dedicated all season tire?
I would love a all season tire that could be put especially on RWD cars located in areas with moderate to heavier snow that handled decently in all seasons but were almost as good as a dedicated snow tire in the winter. It would solve so many problems of not really needing awd or snow tires in the winter especially for rwd cars in areas that get more snow. I am surprised something like that has not come out yet by now.
I would love a all season tire that could be put especially on RWD cars located in areas with moderate to heavier snow that handled decently in all seasons but were almost as good as a dedicated snow tire in the winter. It would solve so many problems of not really needing awd or snow tires in the winter especially for rwd cars in areas that get more snow. I am surprised something like that has not come out yet by now.
10-17-19, 06:49 PM
#9
I personally haven't heard of that "model" but the Defender LTX I put on a couple hundred miles ago has really made a difference (before it was on mismatched tires at or below the legal limit)...about 1100 with the roadhazard warranty before a 70 discount tire rebate card that went straight into my amazon gift balance.
signature probably isn't updated but I took delivery on 9/23. it's an '08 with I think mostly all options but the KDSS / sport package. 128k on the clock, 1 owner, TX car, all great on paper...but for someone that only had real lexus seat time in LS's it's a bit odd. The brakes are touchy AF, some controls and buttons are located precisely such that my knees can accidentally hit them during entry/exit, splash shields that will need periodic replacement without warning leaving things like the alternator within arm's reach from the front right tire, and things like that 2nd start button being mistaken for a button that is supposed to start the engine should turning the key not do it 1st time, obviously the way those DRL/turn signal bulbs are located with them burning out so often that the manual basically says "don't even try, just bring it in" gauge cluster and other bulbs, none of that is what I'm used to experiencing from this mark...but I do like the 4Runner bits they left on like the lo range box and center locking diffs...those came in handy recently on separate occasions.
signature probably isn't updated but I took delivery on 9/23. it's an '08 with I think mostly all options but the KDSS / sport package. 128k on the clock, 1 owner, TX car, all great on paper...but for someone that only had real lexus seat time in LS's it's a bit odd. The brakes are touchy AF, some controls and buttons are located precisely such that my knees can accidentally hit them during entry/exit, splash shields that will need periodic replacement without warning leaving things like the alternator within arm's reach from the front right tire, and things like that 2nd start button being mistaken for a button that is supposed to start the engine should turning the key not do it 1st time, obviously the way those DRL/turn signal bulbs are located with them burning out so often that the manual basically says "don't even try, just bring it in" gauge cluster and other bulbs, none of that is what I'm used to experiencing from this mark...but I do like the 4Runner bits they left on like the lo range box and center locking diffs...those came in handy recently on separate occasions.
10-18-19, 12:52 PM
#11
Lexus Fanatic
so i was looking at discount tire and the P7 and they have cinturato, citurato plus and cinturato strada all rated at 70k miles the plus is $30 cheaper per tire than the regular cinturato and the strada is most expensive at $156
i am so confused why cinturato plus is $30 cheaper that regular cinturato
i am so confused why cinturato plus is $30 cheaper that regular cinturato
10-18-19, 01:33 PM
#12
Lexus Fanatic
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so i was looking at discount tire and the P7 and they have cinturato, citurato plus and cinturato strada all rated at 70k miles the plus is $30 cheaper per tire than the regular cinturato and the strada is most expensive at $156
i am so confused why cinturato plus is $30 cheaper that regular cinturato
i am so confused why cinturato plus is $30 cheaper that regular cinturato
11-24-19, 02:22 PM
#13
Driver School Candidate
My son just installed these on his 2016 Acura TLX and comparing to his previous Continentals DWS06 feels that the Michelin CrossClimate is as good or better in many ways.
Tirerack reviews also spells the same so I going to get a set for my 2019 ES 350 UL.
Will post again after this winter.
Tirerack reviews also spells the same so I going to get a set for my 2019 ES 350 UL.
Will post again after this winter.
11-25-19, 05:31 AM
#14
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
My son just installed these on his 2016 Acura TLX and comparing to his previous Continentals DWS06 feels that the Michelin CrossClimate is as good or better in many ways.
Tirerack reviews also spells the same so I going to get a set for my 2019 ES 350 UL.
Will post again after this winter.
Tirerack reviews also spells the same so I going to get a set for my 2019 ES 350 UL.
Will post again after this winter.
