2019 Toyota Supra
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No offense but you're just talking from the side lines with not having owned either car. I get you're another upset MKIV fan, tons of you guys online. I guess it comes with the territory of owning a car like the MKIV but fans are annoying AF. It's more to a sports car than straight line power and the MKV is very impressive on road courses and that came directly from a friend that builds MKIV's Jose Valle of Kaizen Motorsports. The 2020 MKV is not a top end car like the MKIV is, not everyone cares about roll racing to 160 plus. As pointed out the 2021 setup is different with the manifold setup but doubt you even read about that stuff to understand the differences with having a true 6 port exhaust setup off the head because you hate the car. It is what it is sometimes I wonder why you post and follow this thread.
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I’m in NYC and have not seen 1 in public.
The ones i saw were all at dealers. They are OK in person.
Park them next to new 911 or even NSX, nobody will care about it.
Ppl take pics for many reasons- doesn’t mean they like the car.
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From: Long Island
New Supra is like seeing a Unicorn on the road.
I’m in NYC and have not seen 1 in public.
The ones i saw were all at dealers. They are OK in person.
Park them next to new 911 or even NSX, nobody will care about it.
Ppl take pics for many reasons- doesn’t mean they like the car.
I’m in NYC and have not seen 1 in public.
The ones i saw were all at dealers. They are OK in person.
Park them next to new 911 or even NSX, nobody will care about it.
Ppl take pics for many reasons- doesn’t mean they like the car.
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From: Maryland
I’ve only seen one on the road and it was too far to get a good look. I would like to see one to see if I like it in person. Sometimes cars look better in person than in pictures.
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Dealers have more money to play with. They should stop playing games if there are any with ADM.
2020 Toyota Supra Discounts Doubled In April
Discounts on Toyota's most expensive car have doubled in April. According to dealer incentive bulletins in a dozen regions, the Toyota Supra now features a hidden dealer cash incentive worth $2,000. In addition, Toyota has introduced the car's first-ever financing and lease deals.
Here's what you need to know.
In most parts of the country, dealers are now being given a $2,000 incentive to help lower prices for the 2020 Supra ahead of a major refresh for 2021. Offers on the 2-door coupe first emerged a month ago with a smaller $1,000 incentive. Now, we're also seeing offers in some states for financing and leasing.
For example, those in the Southeast will find 2.9% APR for 60 months plus a 72-month option at 3.49%. Both qualify for no payments for 90 days as part of the automaker's incentive to help consumers amidst COVID-19. Based on our analysis, this can equate to substantial savings when it comes to interest.
On a $50,000 car, a 5-year loan at 5% would cost $6,614 in interest at $944/month before taxes & fees. The latest offer cuts the interest cost to $3,773 at $896/month. It may not be as dramatic as 0% APR for 84 months from Ford, but Toyota has taken a conservative approach to COVID-19 offers.
Supra leases are a mixed bag.
In the Southeast, the 3-liter Premium trim is listed at $579 for 36 months with $3,878 at signing, an effective cost of $687/month. That's based on an MSRP of $53,990, which unfortunately doesn't include a $955 destination charge. The offer comes with an allowance of 12,000 miles per year.
In New York, the automaker is advertising a $609/month lease with $4,999 at signing. That comes out to $748/month, $61 more than the deal in places like Florida. However, a closer look reveals some quirks like a higher MSRP of $56,140 and a shorter allowance of just 10,000 miles per year.
Curiously, Toyota doesn't offer any transparency online as far as what consumers will get for over $56,000.
All Supras come with the same engine, but our analysis finds that the configuration in question is most likely the Premium with optional Driver Assist Package. Unlike other Toyotas, Supra buyers have to pay extra for features like adaptive cruise control and a blind spot monitor since the car was developed with BMW.
Having said all that, shoppers will have to contend with rapidly-changing restrictions as far as social distancing and even determining whether dealers are open or closed amid COVID-19. Fortunately, some offer online buying options and home delivery. Be sure to check with local dealers to explore your options.
Current offers end May 4.
Discounts on Toyota's most expensive car have doubled in April. According to dealer incentive bulletins in a dozen regions, the Toyota Supra now features a hidden dealer cash incentive worth $2,000. In addition, Toyota has introduced the car's first-ever financing and lease deals.
Here's what you need to know.
In most parts of the country, dealers are now being given a $2,000 incentive to help lower prices for the 2020 Supra ahead of a major refresh for 2021. Offers on the 2-door coupe first emerged a month ago with a smaller $1,000 incentive. Now, we're also seeing offers in some states for financing and leasing.
For example, those in the Southeast will find 2.9% APR for 60 months plus a 72-month option at 3.49%. Both qualify for no payments for 90 days as part of the automaker's incentive to help consumers amidst COVID-19. Based on our analysis, this can equate to substantial savings when it comes to interest.
On a $50,000 car, a 5-year loan at 5% would cost $6,614 in interest at $944/month before taxes & fees. The latest offer cuts the interest cost to $3,773 at $896/month. It may not be as dramatic as 0% APR for 84 months from Ford, but Toyota has taken a conservative approach to COVID-19 offers.
Supra leases are a mixed bag.
In the Southeast, the 3-liter Premium trim is listed at $579 for 36 months with $3,878 at signing, an effective cost of $687/month. That's based on an MSRP of $53,990, which unfortunately doesn't include a $955 destination charge. The offer comes with an allowance of 12,000 miles per year.
In New York, the automaker is advertising a $609/month lease with $4,999 at signing. That comes out to $748/month, $61 more than the deal in places like Florida. However, a closer look reveals some quirks like a higher MSRP of $56,140 and a shorter allowance of just 10,000 miles per year.
Curiously, Toyota doesn't offer any transparency online as far as what consumers will get for over $56,000.
All Supras come with the same engine, but our analysis finds that the configuration in question is most likely the Premium with optional Driver Assist Package. Unlike other Toyotas, Supra buyers have to pay extra for features like adaptive cruise control and a blind spot monitor since the car was developed with BMW.
Having said all that, shoppers will have to contend with rapidly-changing restrictions as far as social distancing and even determining whether dealers are open or closed amid COVID-19. Fortunately, some offer online buying options and home delivery. Be sure to check with local dealers to explore your options.
Current offers end May 4.
150 mph is 220 ft/sec, so basically the MkV beats the MKIV by 440ft or about 10.5 bus lengths.....ya that's not progress for being more fuel efficient , less polluting, and cheaper (in today's dollar). 
I can still see there are guys still in denial over the car since they keep on talking about it even when they supposedly have no interest!
I can still see there are guys still in denial over the car since they keep on talking about it even when they supposedly have no interest!
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Joined: Jul 2001
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From: Silicon Valley
i haven't driven the zupra but i have put my foot down at 50 in a stock supra turbo for a few sustained seconds and it was shockingly impressive lol, as someone who's had both can you really say putting your foot down at 50 in the zupra is noticeably more impressive? assuming the supra is in the right gear first of course
Try harder.... And I'll keep posting more pics for you in the interim
Last edited by ST430; Apr 9, 2020 at 12:08 AM.
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From: Silicon Valley
How do you like those tires? Those are NT05R's? I just switched from Toyo R888's to new R888R's on my MKIV in 305/35/18's they seem to need more time to heat up compared to the old ones. I'm just over 800hp and they seem to spin more will see how they do when it's warmer out.
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Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,376
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From: Silicon Valley
New Supra is like seeing a Unicorn on the road.
I’m in NYC and have not seen 1 in public.
The ones i saw were all at dealers. They are OK in person.
Park them next to new 911 or even NSX, nobody will care about it.
Ppl take pics for many reasons- doesn’t mean they like the car.
I’m in NYC and have not seen 1 in public.
The ones i saw were all at dealers. They are OK in person.
Park them next to new 911 or even NSX, nobody will care about it.
Ppl take pics for many reasons- doesn’t mean they like the car.
Where are you in NY? Have several shops that would be happy to take you out in their Zupra and show you the typical owner experience.
For most Zupra guys, it's their 3rd or 4th car and they'll take it out maybe once a week. I kinda like it rare, so keep on hating and tell ur friends too!
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From: Silicon Valley
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Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Long Island
You really have no clue on either the MKIV or the MKV, do you? I've owned both: 93 and 97 TT 6-speeds, BPUd. While it was no slouch, I only ran a best of 11.9 in it, and blew a set of turbos on the 93 as well. The sequential setup was great for off the line acceleration, but hindered the top end. Lots of folks converted to a parallel setup to mitigate that.
those are nice numbers on the draggy btw... your 60-130 is about 2 seconds quicker than mine (totally stock), i'll have to pick on a car less tuned than yours lol
Nice, I heard lots of good things about the r888r's, but I went with the nt05rs due to how cheap they can be had in 315/35/17 size ($150!!!). They're great for the street when at regular psi (I've done mountain runs with them and didn't have any oh **** moments), however when aired down, can wander a bit. Power-wise I'm at 500whp and as long as you heat them up, they grab pretty good. Digs is still a no-no on the street but at the track, it'll hook (provided ur air down and did a good burnout)....got any pics of ur mkiv?
