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Old May 5, 2017 | 11:50 AM
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I got an email that the Cadillac event (at least our 9:30 AM EST timeslot) is canceled, due to inclement weather, see your dealer if you want to experience the thrill of Cadillac. So much for the 640 HP CTS-V thrill ride. See the dealer, for what? A full on sales pitch? What they should have said is sorry for the inconvenience, here is a $100 gift card (GM used to mail out $50 like it was nothing, guess times have changed).

Two weeks ago, we autocrossed the G30 540i's in the pouring rain. Makes one appreciate how serious and dedicated BMW is.
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Every company has their tolerated level of risk

Remember GM got hammered over those ignition switches so they probably hired more attorneys who have some say about what happens
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CTS-V is more valuable than a 540i.. no surprise they shut it down.
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CTS-V is more valuable than a 540i.. no surprise they shut it down.
No doubt....but the email is vague, sounds like one rides in the CTS-V, doesn't specify what car is used for autocross. But I think there was no thought put into the email, "if you would like to experience the thrill of Cadillac, visit your local Cadillac dealer or Cadillac.com." My buddy said tell them it's raining, you're not able to get out to the dealer...
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No doubt....but the email is vague, sounds like one rides in the CTS-V, doesn't specify what car is used for autocross. But I think there was no thought put into the email, "if you would like to experience the thrill of Cadillac, visit your local Cadillac dealer or Cadillac.com." My buddy said tell them it's raining, you're not able to get out to the dealer...
Join us for an engaging driving experience where you’ll discover how Cadillac is setting a new standard for excellence. From street drives to safety maneuvers to a thrilling acceleration ride in a CTS-V, this is a great opportunity to explore our entire product line free of commitment.

http://www.cadillactruthanddare.com/register/CADAMN26
Sounds like you'd drive the latest products like the XT5, CT6, ATS, CTS (and the latest safety tech demos). Also 'ride' not 'drive' the CTS-V. Probably better off that you're not going as you may be even more disappointed. At least they sent an email before you set out.
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Old May 5, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
No doubt....but the email is vague, sounds like one rides in the CTS-V, doesn't specify what car is used for autocross. But I think there was no thought put into the email, "if you would like to experience the thrill of Cadillac, visit your local Cadillac dealer or Cadillac.com." My buddy said tell them it's raining, you're not able to get out to the dealer...
That sounds like a typical canned marketing tag line. It is in the email template and the marketing communications automatons who churn out these emails just forget to edit the text that is in the template.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
CTS-V is more valuable than a 540i.. no surprise they shut it down.

BMW has had driving experiences with the i8 which is way more expensive than the CTS-V.
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BMW has had driving experiences with the i8 which is way more expensive than the CTS-V.
Thanks? But that wasn't part of the posters experience. Those experiences are usually part of special BMW M performance showcases (like how the LFA would be toted around during F and F-Sport tours). The more plebeian BMW Performance Driving School class utilize M240i, 340i, 540i, 650i, X3, and X5 vehicles. Sometimes bringing M2, M3, M4, X5 M, and X6 M along as well.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Thanks? But that wasn't part of the posters experience. Those experiences are usually part of special BMW M performance showcases (like how the LFA would be toted around during F and F-Sport tours). The more plebeian BMW Performance Driving School class utilize M240i, 340i, 540i, 650i, X3, and X5 vehicles. Sometimes bringing M2, M3, M4, X5 M, and X6 M along as well.
What I was trying to say is that there was an i8 driving experience not too long ago in the rain and, despite the i8 being more expensive than the CTS-V it was not canceled. It was not an M Driving Experience and it was free so long as you registered. BMW and Cadillac have a "different philosophy" for sure.
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Just got invitation for M track days, wonder if I should go to the one in California for September.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Just got invitation for M track days, wonder if I should go to the one in California for September.
It's still super hot in Palm Springs in September: 100+. If that sounds hot to you, try to go after October. Also, you can apply your M Track Days credit (about $900) towards a M School 1 or 2 day. I used mine towards a 2-Day, booked for later this year.
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Live in Vegas for 20 years I'm soooo used to the heat
But still couldn't stand humidity in Cali.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
humidity in Cali.
LOL, you ARE from Vegas. I don't feel ANY humidity here!
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Old May 6, 2017 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ragingf80
BMW has had driving experiences with the i8 which is way more expensive than the CTS-V.
I tried to do that thing where you take a 750i home for 2 days, and two dealerships said we're not participating. My buddy at work got the same response....that would be nice, clear the appointments for a weekend, and take the wife and son on a road trip!

I have a feeling the morning time slots were canceled, and not the afternoon, because my buddy at work said he didn't get an email that it was canceled as of 5 pm yesterday, and his slot was 3 PM in the afternoon.

By the way it's dry, and the sun was just out....hahahahahahahahahaha
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Sounds like you'd drive the latest products like the XT5, CT6, ATS, CTS (and the latest safety tech demos). Also 'ride' not 'drive' the CTS-V. Probably better off that you're not going as you may be even more disappointed. At least they sent an email before you set out.
Agreed...I'm curious as to what car would be used for the autocross....maybe CTS with a V6, or maybe turbo 4? Probably the ATS is the most suitable for that....the CTS seems to have gotten pretty big..
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