2018 Genesis G80 Sport
04-23-17, 09:45 AM
#46
Lexus Fanatic
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it's endless...
https://www.google.com/search?q=logo...w=1814&bih=902
maybe we can move on from the similarity of genesis logo to others?
https://www.google.com/search?q=logo...w=1814&bih=902
maybe we can move on from the similarity of genesis logo to others?
04-23-17, 10:53 AM
#47
It looks decent enough in that snazzy color, but most G80s aren't 5.0 Ultimate Package models. It definitely feels, in my experience, more like the interior of a "premium car" from a mainstream brand than the interior of a luxury car from a luxury brand. This is exactly what it is, considering the G80 was a Hyundai a year ago.
04-23-17, 11:01 AM
#48
Lexus Fanatic
The material quality of the G80 is very good, much better than you would get from a mainstream car. Issue is the interior lacks "panache" I agree. The G90 feels much better, I'm sure the next iteration of the G80 will as well.
04-23-17, 05:11 PM
#50
How do you know this? I haven't yet seen any reports on the Sport. This is a brand new package with a TT V-6 engine and new springs and shocks. The intent is to compete with the sportier mid-size cars like BMW and Audi.
Steve
Steve
04-23-17, 05:12 PM
#51
Lexus Fanatic
I would venture to guess he's right. The Genesis as a package is softer than the GS.
04-23-17, 07:45 PM
#52
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05-26-17, 11:17 AM
#55
Lexus Champion
Saw this review on Autoweek today.
2018 Genesis G80 Sport first drive: A new luxury performance player -- emphasis on the luxury
So let us now close our marketing playbooks and look at the latest entry in the Book of Genesis, the G80 Sport, a niche model of the smaller G80 wedged in between the 3.8-liter V6 and the 5.0-liter. The G80 Sport has a twin-turbo 3.3-liter V6 that makes 365 hp, more than the 311-hp naturally aspirated 3.8 but less than the 420-hp bigger-block 5.0-liter V8. The G80 Sport gets trim items that set it apart from the other two G80s, but beyond those, it is just the third G80 engine option.
The G80 Sport, which we got into the next day, gets its 3.3-liter turbo from the larger and heavier G90. So this recipe is taken straight from the Book of Musclecar: "Take ye a big engine and put ye it in a smaller car.” The G80 Sport comes in rear- and all-wheel-drive configurations. The rear-driver weighs 4,519 pounds. Divide that by 365 hp and you get a weight-to-power ratio of 12.4; each horse has 12.4 pounds of Genesis G80 Sport to push around. That’s better than the G80 with the normally aspirated 3.8 engine, which pushes 13.5 pounds. The 5.0-liter V8-powered G80 rates a 10.9, though. So if you want the hod-roddinest G80, the 5.0 is still the king of the segment.
That is, if you don’t look outside the Genesis G80 lineup. If you do, you’ll find that the Cadillac CTS-V –- another twin-turbo V6, albeit with 3.6 liters instead of 3.3 -- rules. It has 420 hp, each of which hauls around a mere 8.9 pounds. The Audi A6 3.0T and Lexus GS 3.5-liter V6 are also better in weight-to-power ratios than the G80. The Infiniti Q50 beats it, too, in both 300- and 400-hp trims.
And while the G90’s ride might be a little more luxury-like, the G80’s ain’t bad. Push the sport button, throw it in a corner in either rear- or all-wheel-drive configuration and you’ll find that it, for the most part, comes out the other side. It feels all of its 4,519 pounds (4,674 in AWD), meaning it has just a hint of plodding around corners. If pushed too hard, it’ll understeer, but you’re not going to feel compelled to push this very hard. It’s lively enough for what it is, but the 535i, A6 and CTSs feel lighter and more sporty.
Which is fine. There’s nothing wrong with putting the emphasis on luxury over handling, and the G80 is indeed luxurious. The question is: Does the world want this kind of luxury?
That is, if you don’t look outside the Genesis G80 lineup. If you do, you’ll find that the Cadillac CTS-V –- another twin-turbo V6, albeit with 3.6 liters instead of 3.3 -- rules. It has 420 hp, each of which hauls around a mere 8.9 pounds. The Audi A6 3.0T and Lexus GS 3.5-liter V6 are also better in weight-to-power ratios than the G80. The Infiniti Q50 beats it, too, in both 300- and 400-hp trims.
And while the G90’s ride might be a little more luxury-like, the G80’s ain’t bad. Push the sport button, throw it in a corner in either rear- or all-wheel-drive configuration and you’ll find that it, for the most part, comes out the other side. It feels all of its 4,519 pounds (4,674 in AWD), meaning it has just a hint of plodding around corners. If pushed too hard, it’ll understeer, but you’re not going to feel compelled to push this very hard. It’s lively enough for what it is, but the 535i, A6 and CTSs feel lighter and more sporty.
Which is fine. There’s nothing wrong with putting the emphasis on luxury over handling, and the G80 is indeed luxurious. The question is: Does the world want this kind of luxury?
05-26-17, 11:27 AM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
I saw one the other day and it made me look. Hyundai sure knows how to style their cars. I would question the resale and fuel efficiency. There are Sonatas that are well over 200k (2nd to most recent body style), so they likely last. It's a car brand I want to like, but would likely never purchase. My parents owned 2 2000 Elantras, and when both were junked, they were over 15 y.o. Unlike my 1998 Maxima, they had zero rust, which I found to be bizarre....(used in CT ~15 yrs.)
05-26-17, 11:31 AM
#57
Lexus Champion
I think it's a beautiful car that could really be amazing if it dropped 500 or so pounds. If I wanted a softer ride, it would absolutely be on my list to check out.
Last edited by JDR76; 05-26-17 at 12:10 PM.
05-26-17, 05:22 PM
#58
Lexus Fanatic
Well, keep in mind that, all else equal, unless suspension and wheel/tire adjustments are made to compensate, the more weight a vehicle has (especially over the suspension), the smoother the ride will be. That's because it lowers the (relative) unsprung weight under the suspension and makes it more difficult for the suspension to transmit bump-impacts into the cabin.
05-26-17, 07:40 PM
#59
Lexus Champion
It weighs around 185 pounds less than my AWD Highlander Hybrid that seats 7 and carries a V6, 3 electric motors, and a battery pack. The weight of this car is not a selling point.
05-26-17, 07:42 PM
#60
I saw one the other day and it made me look. Hyundai sure knows how to style their cars. I would question the resale and fuel efficiency. There are Sonatas that are well over 200k (2nd to most recent body style), so they likely last. It's a car brand I want to like, but would likely never purchase. My parents owned 2 2000 Elantras, and when both were junked, they were over 15 y.o. Unlike my 1998 Maxima, they had zero rust, which I found to be bizarre....(used in CT ~15 yrs.)