2018 Camry revealed
#166
Lexus Champion
Agree about 4 cylinder turbos in general, but to clarify, the Mazda6 is not a turbo.
#167
Lexus Champion
as I said.. premium price and a base model look.. yuck on the hybrid front end..
#168
Lexus Fanatic
Camry update is interesting. Again i think its pretty much a homerun.
Looks good, 8speed auto across the range, more power, class leading V6, more standard features.
Bravo!
Whats interesting is Toyota kept the V6 in it and didnt downsize to 4cyl only even though nobody would protest too much if it was dropped. As in this class of car other features / criteria are more important.
But then in the LS - they decided to downsize to V6 only.
Looks good, 8speed auto across the range, more power, class leading V6, more standard features.
Bravo!
Whats interesting is Toyota kept the V6 in it and didnt downsize to 4cyl only even though nobody would protest too much if it was dropped. As in this class of car other features / criteria are more important.
But then in the LS - they decided to downsize to V6 only.
The Camry looks like the previous Gen Hyundai Sonata which I am not really a fan of. Not really a fan of the interior either, looks needlessly complicated to use. Keeping the 6 cylinder is nice especially with adding D4S DI and I read they went with a dual wishbone setup which is very interesting, in some ways the new Camry has a more advanced suspension and engine then the Lexus ES now.
#169
Lexus Champion
I distinctly remember that at every FMC, no matter if it was a completely new platform or not, Toyota advertised that torsional rigidity increased some double-digit percentage.
#170
Lexus Champion
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyot...-drive-review/
dear god yes, about time, toyota, i knew ya could.
dear god yes, about time, toyota, i knew ya could.
The wheels—ranging from 16-inchers on the base LE to 19 inches on the pull-no-punches XSE—have been lured out of their usual hiding in the wheelwells. The rear suspension is totally recomposed—proper double A-arms substituting for the old struts.
#171
Lexus Fanatic
#172
Pole Position
I'm sure they did to meet safety regulations but so has the prius and that went up by 60%. Basically what this means they brought the structural rigidity up to ES (with laser welds and glues and whatnot) levels or a bit more.
#173
Pole Position
Strange. Maybe its my memory but I recall every new generation of Camry and Highlander introduction, I purposely look for info regarding structural changes and rigidity increases and I dont read anything in magazines. So I figured it wasnt worth mentioning.
#174
Lexus Fanatic
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#175
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by Sulu
Toyota got rid of the rear Mac struts and replaced it with a double-wishbone.
#176
The front end looks lost. They keep forcing in mass market appeal into the front. This is their 3rd attempt to get it right with the camry.
the sonanta and optima both look much better.
the camry sales is officially finished.
the sonanta and optima both look much better.
the camry sales is officially finished.
#177
Lexus Fanatic
#178
Lexus Fanatic
#180
Many people would be complaining including me, can't stand 4 cylinders replacing good 6 cylinders. I am glad they kept the V6, huge selling point to me over adding useless apps/lane keep assist/monitoring systems, and other pointless features like that I never use. Plenty of people are also complaining about a 6 cylinder in the LS replacing the V8.
The Camry looks like the previous Gen Hyundai Sonata which I am not really a fan of. Not really a fan of the interior either, looks needlessly complicated to use. Keeping the 6 cylinder is nice especially with adding D4S DI and I read they went with a dual wishbone setup which is very interesting, in some ways the new Camry has a more advanced suspension and engine then the Lexus ES now.
The Camry looks like the previous Gen Hyundai Sonata which I am not really a fan of. Not really a fan of the interior either, looks needlessly complicated to use. Keeping the 6 cylinder is nice especially with adding D4S DI and I read they went with a dual wishbone setup which is very interesting, in some ways the new Camry has a more advanced suspension and engine then the Lexus ES now.
Back on topic, I do think it is great selling feature that Toyota still offers a V6 in the Camry. They compete most closely with the Honda Accord, which also offers a V6. However, I think the vast majority of each of those cars will be sold with a 4-cylinder engine.