Lucid Air
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The Federal government owns 75% of the forested land in CA. If you want to point fingers for not clearing dead brush and trees, and coming up with a plan to prevent these catastrophic fires, point at the Feds. The majority of the tree deaths are due to disease. Trees weakened by years/decades of drought are prone to disease.
95% of the best and brightest, credentialed climate scientists, agree the extreme level of drought in CA is a result of climate change. Since you are taking a minority viewpoint, if you want to refute the science, please provide your credentials and/or site your sources (scientist and studies commissioned by the oil industry don't count).
And there are even more "scientists' paid for by the environmental groups to come to the conclusion they want. Works both ways. Follow the money. I remember when the same folks were claiming all the arctic sea ice would be gone by 2014.
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Shouldn't the public be well informed by credentialed, honest, unbiased scientists? Is there any hope of avoiding a global climate catastrophe without acknowledgement of the issue? Don't we need to identify the causes to develop a plan/call to action for correcting it? If not, our species should pack its collective bag...we're out of here!
Unfortunately, the majority of scientists also believe we've waited too long to address climate change and won't be able to change our behaviors and business practices quickly enough to halt or reverse the warming. Maybe it is just as well since so many people are unwilling to change for the greater good of man, or even accept that climate change is real or affected by man. Since it likely won't decimate the species in our lifetimes, it's not on most peoples radar.
Unfortunately, the majority of scientists also believe we've waited too long to address climate change and won't be able to change our behaviors and business practices quickly enough to halt or reverse the warming. Maybe it is just as well since so many people are unwilling to change for the greater good of man, or even accept that climate change is real or affected by man. Since it likely won't decimate the species in our lifetimes, it's not on most peoples radar.
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From: SC
Shouldn't the public be well informed by credentialed, honest, unbiased scientists? Is there any hope of avoiding a global climate catastrophe without acknowledgement of the issue? Don't we need to identify the causes to develop a plan/call to action for correcting it? If not, our species should pack its collective bag...we're out of here!
Unfortunately, the majority of scientists also believe we've waited too long to address climate change and won't be able to change our behaviors and business practices quickly enough to halt or reverse the warming. Maybe it is just as well since so many people are unwilling to change for the greater good of man, or even accept that climate change is real or affected by man. Since it likely won't decimate the species in our lifetimes, it's not on most peoples radar.
Unfortunately, the majority of scientists also believe we've waited too long to address climate change and won't be able to change our behaviors and business practices quickly enough to halt or reverse the warming. Maybe it is just as well since so many people are unwilling to change for the greater good of man, or even accept that climate change is real or affected by man. Since it likely won't decimate the species in our lifetimes, it's not on most peoples radar.
Money and politics have corrupted the scientific community, just like it does everything. Obviously, you don't REALLY believe it, or you wouldn't be driving what you drive right now.
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A Lucid Air prototype ran the quarter mile in 9.245 seconds
Before we go any further, let's put 9.245 seconds into perspective. Back in 2017 when Dodge introduced the Challenger SRT Demon, we were awed that the 840-horsepower tire-shredder could cover a quarter of a mile in 9.65 seconds. So was the National Hot Rod Association, which at the time proclaimed the Demon the quickest production car of all time. The demonic Challenger was capable, under just the right circumstances and on specific drag-racing tires, of launching from 0-60 in 2.3 seconds with its front tires skimming the tarmac, but it was darn near impossible to avoid the immediate loss of rear-wheel traction and launch that hard consistently.
More comparable to the Lucid Air is the Tesla Model S with all-wheel drive and Ludicrous mode. Musk's current top-shelfer can do relatively repeatable 0-60 runs of around 2.3 seconds thanks to its simple foot-on-the-pedal launch style, all-wheel-drive traction and instant-on electric drivetrain. Although no 0-60 has been shared for this version of the tri-motor Lucid Air, it's likely a tad quicker than the already Ludicrous Model S. We'll have to wait until Tesla goes Plaid to see the next rung of Model S performance.
Perhaps more impressive than the elapsed time is the trap speed that this Lucid prototype recorded at the drag strip. As Motor Trend points out, 157 miles per hour at the end of the quarter mile is mind bending. And it indicates that even quicker elapsed time measurements are likely to come once more traction can be dialed in.
Let's just say we're looking forward to seeing if Air versus Model S will become the next Mustang versus Camaro in the burgeoning electric speed wars.
More comparable to the Lucid Air is the Tesla Model S with all-wheel drive and Ludicrous mode. Musk's current top-shelfer can do relatively repeatable 0-60 runs of around 2.3 seconds thanks to its simple foot-on-the-pedal launch style, all-wheel-drive traction and instant-on electric drivetrain. Although no 0-60 has been shared for this version of the tri-motor Lucid Air, it's likely a tad quicker than the already Ludicrous Model S. We'll have to wait until Tesla goes Plaid to see the next rung of Model S performance.
Perhaps more impressive than the elapsed time is the trap speed that this Lucid prototype recorded at the drag strip. As Motor Trend points out, 157 miles per hour at the end of the quarter mile is mind bending. And it indicates that even quicker elapsed time measurements are likely to come once more traction can be dialed in.
Let's just say we're looking forward to seeing if Air versus Model S will become the next Mustang versus Camaro in the burgeoning electric speed wars.
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From: Virginia
Not sure if it's in this thread yet, but they announced the pricing and specs on the "Base" Air.
Model Range Power Price
Air 406 miles 480 hp $77,400
Air Touring 406 miles 620 hp $95,000
Air Grand Touring 517 miles 800 hp $139,000
Dream 517 miles 1,080 hp $169,000
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/14/...#slide-2270521
Lucid is going after the Tesla Model S with its base-model Air sedan, which will pack 406 miles of range on a single charge, with a starting price of $77,400 (or $69,900 after the $7,500 federal tax credit). With this announcement, Lucid's four initial models are locked in, offering total range between 406 and 517 miles and power output from 480 horses to 1,080. The base model will take the fight to Tesla's 402-mile, $72,000 Model S sedan.
When Lucid debuted its production-spec sedan back in September, it lead with its heavy hitters. But just because you can serve caviar doesn't mean you don't need bread and butter. The Lucid Dream, which is the marquee launch model, packs a 1,080-horsepower, dual-motor powertrain that will propel the 500-mile electric car to 60 MPH in under 2.5 seconds as it makes its way through the quarter-mile in just 9.9 seconds, making it the quickest four-door EV on the planet.
ADVERTISEMENTLike the rest of the Lucid Air's fundamental engineering, much of the powertrain is modular. The long-range, 113-kWh battery pack is made up of multiple units sitting under the rear bench; on shorter-range models, this number can be reduced and the pack space replaced with a new floor panel that allows more foot room. This plug-and-play approach gives Lucid a great deal of flexibility, which is how we go from a 1,080 horsepower, 500-mile model launch edition to a 480-horsepower, 406-mile entry-level model with relatively few discernible changes, plus a couple of variants in between.
Through early 2022, Lucid is aiming for a four-tiered strategy. The base Air sedan will compete with the meat of Tesla's Model S lineup. The Touring model will pack 620 horsepower and up to 406 miles of range; the Grand Touring will up that to 800 horsepower and the full 517 miles; at the top is the aforementioned Dream Edition, with all 1,080 ponies and either 465 or 503 miles of total range, depending on your wheel and tire choices. All range figures are preliminary and not verified by the EPA. Here's a breakdown of the full lineup:
When Lucid debuted its production-spec sedan back in September, it lead with its heavy hitters. But just because you can serve caviar doesn't mean you don't need bread and butter. The Lucid Dream, which is the marquee launch model, packs a 1,080-horsepower, dual-motor powertrain that will propel the 500-mile electric car to 60 MPH in under 2.5 seconds as it makes its way through the quarter-mile in just 9.9 seconds, making it the quickest four-door EV on the planet.
ADVERTISEMENTLike the rest of the Lucid Air's fundamental engineering, much of the powertrain is modular. The long-range, 113-kWh battery pack is made up of multiple units sitting under the rear bench; on shorter-range models, this number can be reduced and the pack space replaced with a new floor panel that allows more foot room. This plug-and-play approach gives Lucid a great deal of flexibility, which is how we go from a 1,080 horsepower, 500-mile model launch edition to a 480-horsepower, 406-mile entry-level model with relatively few discernible changes, plus a couple of variants in between.
Through early 2022, Lucid is aiming for a four-tiered strategy. The base Air sedan will compete with the meat of Tesla's Model S lineup. The Touring model will pack 620 horsepower and up to 406 miles of range; the Grand Touring will up that to 800 horsepower and the full 517 miles; at the top is the aforementioned Dream Edition, with all 1,080 ponies and either 465 or 503 miles of total range, depending on your wheel and tire choices. All range figures are preliminary and not verified by the EPA. Here's a breakdown of the full lineup:
Air 406 miles 480 hp $77,400
Air Touring 406 miles 620 hp $95,000
Air Grand Touring 517 miles 800 hp $139,000
Dream 517 miles 1,080 hp $169,000
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/14/...#slide-2270521
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Lol after this lucid announcement, Elon tweeted the price of the s will be reduced tonight to $69,420, making it the cheapest in the segment and undercutting the Air by $500.
this is after a price decrease of 3K announced earlier this week
this is after a price decrease of 3K announced earlier this week
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Of course, because Elon is a child and makes potentially multi million dollar impacts to the company's forecasts and profitability at the drop of a tweet.
Lucid Motors nears **** deal as Klein launches financing, sources say
At a roughly $12-billion valuation
Luxury electric vehicle maker Lucid Motors Inc is getting close to a deal to go public at a roughly $12-billion valuation after veteran dealmaker Michael Klein's blank-check acquisition firm launched a financing effort to back the transaction, people familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.
The merger between Lucid and Klein's Churchill Capital IV Corp would be the biggest in a string of deals by electric vehicle makers such as Nikola Corp and Fisker Inc that have gone public by combining with special purpose acquisition companies (*****).
Churchill Capital IV has initiated talks with investors to raise more than $1 billion by selling shares in a private investment in public equity (PIPE) transaction for the deal with Lucid, the sources said. The size of the PIPE could reach $1.5 billion or more based on investor demand, one added.
These funds would be in addition to the $2 billion Churchill Capital IV raised in an initial public offering (IPO) in July on the New York Stock Exchange. Lucid and Klein agreed on the key terms of the deal, according to the sources.
If the PIPE fundraising concludes successfully, a deal could be announced as early as this month, according to the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss the confidential details. Churchill Capital IV declined to comment. Lucid did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Churchill Capital IV's stock spiked on the news and was trading up around 30% at $52.20.
Lucid, founded in 2007 as Atieva Inc by former Tesla executive Bernard Tse and entrepreneur Sam Weng, makes luxury electric vehicles. It was funded initially by Chinese and Silicon Valley venture investors, with additional funding from backers like state-owned Chinese auto maker BAIC Motor and Chinese technology company LeEco.
To help fund construction of a U.S. assembly plant in Casa Grande, Arizona, Lucid was boosted by a $1 billion investment in 2018 by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.
Churchill Capital IV's share price has surged more than 300% since Bloomberg News reported in January that it was in talks to merge with Lucid.
***** likes Churchill IV are shell companies that raise money in an IPO to merge with a privately held company that becomes publicly traded as a result.
Merging with a **** has emerged as a popular IPO alternative for companies seeking to go public with less regulatory scrutiny and more certainty over the valuation that will be attained and funds that will be raised.
Investors keen on ***** are on the hunt for electric vehicle startups, hoping to catch the next Tesla Inc. While some deals such as Fisker have delivered handsomely for **** investors, other such as Nikola have given up their short-term gains.
Klein has raised a string of ***** which have done deals for companies including healthcare-services company MultiPlan Corp and analytics firm Clarivate Plc.
The merger between Lucid and Klein's Churchill Capital IV Corp would be the biggest in a string of deals by electric vehicle makers such as Nikola Corp and Fisker Inc that have gone public by combining with special purpose acquisition companies (*****).
Churchill Capital IV has initiated talks with investors to raise more than $1 billion by selling shares in a private investment in public equity (PIPE) transaction for the deal with Lucid, the sources said. The size of the PIPE could reach $1.5 billion or more based on investor demand, one added.
These funds would be in addition to the $2 billion Churchill Capital IV raised in an initial public offering (IPO) in July on the New York Stock Exchange. Lucid and Klein agreed on the key terms of the deal, according to the sources.
If the PIPE fundraising concludes successfully, a deal could be announced as early as this month, according to the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss the confidential details. Churchill Capital IV declined to comment. Lucid did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Churchill Capital IV's stock spiked on the news and was trading up around 30% at $52.20.
Lucid, founded in 2007 as Atieva Inc by former Tesla executive Bernard Tse and entrepreneur Sam Weng, makes luxury electric vehicles. It was funded initially by Chinese and Silicon Valley venture investors, with additional funding from backers like state-owned Chinese auto maker BAIC Motor and Chinese technology company LeEco.
To help fund construction of a U.S. assembly plant in Casa Grande, Arizona, Lucid was boosted by a $1 billion investment in 2018 by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.
Churchill Capital IV's share price has surged more than 300% since Bloomberg News reported in January that it was in talks to merge with Lucid.
***** likes Churchill IV are shell companies that raise money in an IPO to merge with a privately held company that becomes publicly traded as a result.
Merging with a **** has emerged as a popular IPO alternative for companies seeking to go public with less regulatory scrutiny and more certainty over the valuation that will be attained and funds that will be raised.
Investors keen on ***** are on the hunt for electric vehicle startups, hoping to catch the next Tesla Inc. While some deals such as Fisker have delivered handsomely for **** investors, other such as Nikola have given up their short-term gains.
Klein has raised a string of ***** which have done deals for companies including healthcare-services company MultiPlan Corp and analytics firm Clarivate Plc.
