MM Full-Review: 2017 Cadillac XT5
02-13-18, 05:17 PM
#106
Lexus Fanatic
But are you talking about patriotic pride, or about build quality?
If a Corvette is built in Canada, is that bad because Canadians can't build them the same as Americans? Or is it because the Corvette buyer wants to make sure Americans benefited from the purchase?
Because I don't really see that the same as wanting a BMW from Germany--most people with that view are looking at it as a quality issue, not a "We want German citizens to benefit" issue.
If a Corvette is built in Canada, is that bad because Canadians can't build them the same as Americans? Or is it because the Corvette buyer wants to make sure Americans benefited from the purchase?
Because I don't really see that the same as wanting a BMW from Germany--most people with that view are looking at it as a quality issue, not a "We want German citizens to benefit" issue.
As for quality, I mentioned a few examples of how brands cheapen out and reduce the quality in a product. Toyota c channel frames, Starbucks now automates their espresso pours, and Apple takes away the home button and audio port.
02-13-18, 07:27 PM
#107
Lexus Fanatic
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Not sure if I said “better” but perhaps I might of, Japanese Toyotas tend be a bit superior in design compared to the models designed and made in America. My argument is that it is more “special” when a product comes from a particular origin, especially when there is a premium price attached to it.
Mercedes Benz has something super special where you can pick up your Mercedes from Germany drive it all over Europe and the leave it at a drop off point and ship it to the United States.
02-13-18, 07:36 PM
#108
Lexus Fanatic
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i can get a receiver today that costs HALF or less than what that pioneer elite cost back then (without even taking into account inflation, just straight dollars) and the new one is WAAAAY more capable (especially networking). of course the old elites were saddled with having to support composite, s-video, component video formats, and later hdmi as well, it was a huge mess. things today being digital and wireless is simpler.
a japanese made sony tv back in the day was definitely special, but i'm perfectly ok with an amazing s. korean lg or samsung today!
anyway, off topic, but for all products, global production and competition lowers prices improves choice and most consumers won't care and it is and will continue to do the same for cars.
02-15-18, 11:07 PM
#109
Hey Bitkahina, you're supposed to be a senior moderator. I think it's time to lock down this thread and delete all the non XT5 posts here. It's a shame what has happened here. All those that want o talk about where a car is built need to start a new thread. Is there no common courtesy in CL anymore?
02-17-18, 09:40 AM
#110
Lexus Fanatic
Hey Bitkahina, you're supposed to be a senior moderator. I think it's time to lock down this thread and delete all the non XT5 posts here. It's a shame what has happened here. All those that want o talk about where a car is built need to start a new thread. Is there no common courtesy in CL anymore?
These review posts become an open discussion about a lot of different aspects of the car and how it fits into the automotive landscape. As someone who also posts them from time to time, mine ebb and flow the same way. They're hard to keep "on topic" because they were never posted as a discussion topic or question, they are subjective reviews posted by a specific member. I personally like the fact that these sorts of threads are allowed to take their own course within reason on CL, and I would suggest that if the discussion gets to a place where you're no longer enjoying it...you unsubscribe.
What is "on topic" people posting "thanks for the review"? Boring IMHO.
02-17-18, 01:57 PM
#111
The last post in this thread before this post was from 2/13...and interestingly enough on that same day you also posted in it discussing where the XT5 was built...yet now 4 days later you complain about the discussion being off topic and on the very topic that just 4 days ago you were happily participating in.
I am taking your advice and unsubscribing from this useless drivel.
02-17-18, 02:42 PM
#112
Lexus Fanatic
Start your own thread. Try a Cadillac forum.
I dont get the pissy attitude, especially when you happily posted off topic in the thread 4 days ago.
I dont get the pissy attitude, especially when you happily posted off topic in the thread 4 days ago.
02-17-18, 04:46 PM
#113
Please post a new thread with your ownership review. I'd be very curious to hear your take on the XT5. You've been a big Lexus guy for awhile, most recently the NX and '13 RX. Curious why the switch. I'm a fan of the exterior, very sleek. What made you choose one over the 4th generation RX? You had a Lexus Master lease on the previous Lexus's correct?
02-17-18, 05:27 PM
#114
Forum Administrator
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For future posts let’s get back on topic and drop the personal commentary
02-18-18, 11:08 AM
#115
Lexus Test Driver
What you don't seem to understand is this thread is about the Cadillac XT5. not every vehicle in the world. I revived this thread hoping for new comments on it since I just leased one. Instead the XT5 topic was thread jacked by posters not discussing the XT5 but every thing else.
I am taking your advice and unsubscribing from this useless drivel.
I am taking your advice and unsubscribing from this useless drivel.
02-18-18, 11:12 AM
#116
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