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I can't see the attraction of these new CUVs even though everyone seems to be getting one. They're heavier than sedans of similar length, the driving dynamics are compromised, mileage is a lot lower because of that weight and optional AWD, they cost more, yet they're flying off the dealer lots. The higher driving position becomes pointless when the road is clogged full of tall vehicles. Most buyers never venture off flat asphalt so why are they buying these things?
A lot of it too is style and fashion. They're in style and that appeals to people.
My business partner who has the 2015 GS F Sport just got a new Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude and gave the GS to his fiancé to finish out the lease:
Thats a trim that didn't exist when I had my Jeep, its above the Overland but below the Summit. I rode in it the other day and I had forgotten what a nice vehicle it is to ride in. Honestly, its every bit as smooth and quiet as my LS460, and its not even the Summit which has active noise cancellation, an acoustic windshield, etc.
A lot of plusses. I've considered it each time, but I've always held back.
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I can't see the attraction of these new CUVs even though everyone seems to be getting one. They're heavier than sedans of similar length, the driving dynamics are compromised, mileage is a lot lower because of that weight and optional AWD, they cost more, yet they're flying off the dealer lots. The higher driving position becomes pointless when the road is clogged full of tall vehicles. Most buyers never venture off flat asphalt so why are they buying these things?
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I was considering the A7 because it is beautiful and still a hatchback, but because it is so ridiculously expensive I can get an SQ5 with better power and handling for less money. Yes, a CUV with better power and handling than a top line sedan. There are a few out there.
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Bingo! I will be trading my S5 for some type of CUV in December. I'm not doing it to ride higher. I love my coupe. It's just that with a sedan the storage space is compromised. I travel a lot, and although I can stuff my luggage into the back of my S5 I would like to be able to simply drop it in without shuffling everything around. When we both travel we have to hire a transfer because even with the rear seats folded down there still isn't enough room. We recently purchased a new desk chair and had to take it out of the box and put it in our convertible with the top down to carry it home.
I was considering the A7 because it is beautiful and still a hatchback, but because it is so ridiculously expensive I can get an SQ5 with better power and handling for less money. Yes, a CUV with better power and handling than a top line sedan. There are a few out there.
I was considering the A7 because it is beautiful and still a hatchback, but because it is so ridiculously expensive I can get an SQ5 with better power and handling for less money. Yes, a CUV with better power and handling than a top line sedan. There are a few out there.
Does it have to be an S-model? If you want that extra power and handling, and can afford it, fine, but you'll save quite a bit by forgoing that S-label.
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Bingo! I will be trading my S5 for some type of CUV in December. I'm not doing it to ride higher. I love my coupe. It's just that with a sedan the storage space is compromised. I travel a lot, and although I can stuff my luggage into the back of my S5 I would like to be able to simply drop it in without shuffling everything around. When we both travel we have to hire a transfer because even with the rear seats folded down there still isn't enough room. We recently purchased a new desk chair and had to take it out of the box and put it in our convertible with the top down to carry it home.
How much stuff can you(or presumably the misses) have that you can't fit it in the trunk and back seat of that Audi? That's kind of insane unless you are going on a month long voyage from NY to CA or are on a wilderness expedition to the Klondike or something. I get it if you had something like a Miata, Corvette, etc but there is a pretty good amount of room in an Audi S5, 335i coupe, etc
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Hatchbacks are awesome, had a 1999 Camaro and my buddy had a 2003 Acura RSX. You wouldn't believe how much crap you could cram in either one of those cars, especially the Acura with the rear seats folded. The Camaro would take a whole mountain bike with the wheels on. As for the Mazda 6, I really liked the wagon version they sold about 10 years ago.
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I'm older than most here and traded in an ES350 for a Q5. Much easier and convenient to load and unload luggage and other miscellaneous stuff on to the flat floor vs. down into a trunk cramming things into the back seat etc. I'd wager there are a lot of other consumers who prefer the room and convenience. CUV's/SUV's obviously not for everyone but good options to have.
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Its totally different. When packing for a trip you can load an SUV or CUV up to the roof in the back. You can put large or oddly shaped stuff in there.
My partner who traded his GS for a Grand Cherokee, his first comment was how much easier it was ti carry around his stuff he needs for work.
My partner who traded his GS for a Grand Cherokee, his first comment was how much easier it was ti carry around his stuff he needs for work.
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Its totally different. When packing for a trip you can load an SUV or CUV up to the roof in the back. You can put large or oddly shaped stuff in there.
My partner who traded his GS for a Grand Cherokee, his first comment was how much easier it was ti carry around his stuff he needs for work.
My partner who traded his GS for a Grand Cherokee, his first comment was how much easier it was ti carry around his stuff he needs for work.
(Now you guys can see why I criticize vehicles with overly-crowded back seats, though I admit that my Verano (the thread-title) is indeed one of the offenders in that area.
But I myself rarely, if ever, carry someone in back....my brother does on occasion**.As you all may have guessed by now, the knee surgery's over, and I'm back at home recuperating.
Of course, not all SUVs are designed well for actually crying things (or people) in back. Some of them, like the boxy Subaru Forester, are excellent (and have the added benefit of large square windows for vision). Others, like the Nissan Juke or now-discontinued Acura ZDX, make you wonder what the designers were smoking.
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How much stuff can you(or presumably the misses) have that you can't fit it in the trunk and back seat of that Audi? That's kind of insane unless you are going on a month long voyage from NY to CA or are on a wilderness expedition to the Klondike or something. I get it if you had something like a Miata, Corvette, etc but there is a pretty good amount of room in an Audi S5, 335i coupe, etc
Not that I need to explain it, but I know what I'm talking about. This is my third S5. I've lived with them for a long time.
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