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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 06:55 AM
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I even slow coming to a green light, foot of the gas pedal and ready to brake knowing very well that there is a lunatic who is just itching to run the red light. Scan the cross roads, and then gas through the green light.
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dseag2
I'll have to admit I'm on of those impatient drivers who drives my car like I stole it and who honks if someone gets into my lane or doesn't go when the light turns.

But more and more, I'm noticing drivers that seem to wander around aimlessly, turning at the last minute with no turn signal, coming over into my lane, crossing 3 lanes of traffic to make a turn, sitting at a green light long after it has changed and just generally poking along like they've never driven before.

I live in Dallas, and my neighborhood is not a huge tourist area, so these are people who generally live here.

What's going on? Is everyone so absolutely glued to their devices that they just don't care anymore? Are the requirements to get a driver's license so lax these days?

Hey, I realize that most people don't really like to drive like those of us in this forum, but isn't there at least an obligation to fake it?

I'm the last one to want to have to give up my steering wheel for a driverless car, but I'm starting to think it might not be such a bad idea for the other 90% on the road.

Anyone else with similar frustrations? How do you handle it? Deep breaths?
The worst part of this, I find, which infuriates me, is that when someone drives like this, and you honk at them, they honk back or flip you off. I'm sorry--you just crossed over 3 lanes of traffic to make your turn--why am I in the wrong to honk at you?
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 09:29 AM
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Because it's all about them.
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Because it's all about them.
this sums it up!
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 12:00 PM
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And WTF is it with Altima and Prius drivers, in my experience they're lunatics!!

Ok, done venting.....For now..

My experience, gathered over many years, is that in general, Ford Mustang V8 jocks are the worst, followed by those in the BMW 3-series. You'll find a fair number of aggressive Porsche drivers, too, but not as many as the other two.

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I even slow coming to a green light, foot of the gas pedal and ready to brake knowing very well that there is a lunatic who is just itching to run the red light. Scan the cross roads, and then gas through the green light.
Usually, red-light runners do so at low speeds, or speed up during a yellow light. But, though it is not done very often, I have seen people just barrel through a standing red light as high as 30 MPH without even slowing down. That is scary.
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
My experience, gathered over many years, is that in general, Ford Mustang V8 jocks are the worst, followed by those in the BMW 3-series. You'll find a fair number of aggressive Porsche drivers, too, but not as many as the other two.



Usually, red-light runners do so at low speeds, or speed up during a yellow light. But, though it is not done very often, I have seen people just barrel through a standing red light as high as 30 MPH without even slowing down. That is scary.
I've seen people run reds because they were texting The worst and most dangerous kind...
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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In my case it was and has been Dodge Pickup truck Hemi drivers. Two of them over the weekend speeding up to and over 90 mph on a two lane rural highway that's basically pretty safe and nicely laid out. The speed limit is 60 mph (100 km/hr) for all of it.

Oh and a young 20-something pair of students whose two door brand new Civic I passed as they were slower than the speed limit on the main highway and then promptly decided to speed up and test me once I was on the two lane. Nice. All this while I decided to tune into a "talk radio" show whose hosts and listeners wanted me to know that speeding fines, photo radar are all a money grab on innocent motorists who know more about traffic safety, road engineering than just about anyone else. Oh the irony.
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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lol you can't be too hard on the civic guys though, they have a civic life's hard enough
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 01:26 AM
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In my case it was and has been Dodge Pickup truck Hemi drivers. Two of them over the weekend speeding up to and over 90 mph on a two lane rural highway that's basically pretty safe and nicely laid out. The speed limit is 60 mph (100 km/hr) for all of it.

Oh and a young 20-something pair of students whose two door brand new Civic I passed as they were slower than the speed limit on the main highway and then promptly decided to speed up and test me once I was on the two lane. Nice. All this while I decided to tune into a "talk radio" show whose hosts and listeners wanted me to know that speeding fines, photo radar are all a money grab on innocent motorists who know more about traffic safety, road engineering than just about anyone else. Oh the irony.
A Dodge truck is a douche bag ride IMO. Just something about the demographic that they appeal to, especially the older, cheap ones. Bunch of idiot redneck, trailer trash people driving them, if I must stereotype. Especially the Cummins diesel models, they like to hop them up and make them "roll coal", ie dump too much fuel into the engine to where it escapes out the back in the form of black smoke.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyG
In my case it was and has been Dodge Pickup truck Hemi drivers. Two of them over the weekend speeding up to and over 90 mph on a two lane rural highway that's basically pretty safe and nicely laid out. The speed limit is 60 mph (100 km/hr) for all of it.

I decided to tune into a "talk radio" show whose hosts and listeners wanted me to know that speeding fines, photo radar are all a money grab on innocent motorists who know more about traffic safety, road engineering than just about anyone else. Oh the irony.
If the road is so nicely laid out then 60 (100) is likely well under it's design speed. 70-75 (110-120k) may be more appropriate.

Photo radar IS a money grab. It's been proven that speed limits are arbitrarily lowered and or yellow lights shortened in order to "make the investment worth it" How is impeding traffic flow ever safe? It isn't.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by litesoarer

Photo radar IS a money grab. It's been proven that speed limits are arbitrarily lowered and or yellow lights shortened in order to "make the investment worth it" How is impeding traffic flow ever safe? It isn't.

Speed-cameras in most areas, though, for a number of reasons, are set up to not nab you unless you are actually going over the posted limit by 10-11 MPH or so. That is to take into account such things as downhill effects adding to speed, speedometer error in the vehicles (which often comes from oversize-tires/wheels), built-in speedometer error from the factory, and general unfamiliarity from drivers with the road itself.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 08:17 PM
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From the head of Canada's national police force which patrols huge chunks of rural areas and a lot of small communities and in major urban areas - all the major highways etc.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...tale-1.3515702

It was meant as a bit of a throw away line to a lunchtime crowd of board of trade types gathered in a Vancouver ballroom to listen to the country's top cop.

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson was there to discuss national security in the wake of the Brussels bombing, and also what progress he was making on curtailing harassment and weeding out members who have sullied the force's reputation.

In a lighter moment, he was asked by a member of the audience, when was the last time he had written a traffic ticket to anyone.

Instead of answering the question, the commissioner went on a "bon mot" diversion.

He talked about speeding down B.C.'s Coquihalla Highway with some family members last year and being pulled over by an RCMP officer.

Paulson got some laughs when he mimicked the horrified reaction of the member who suddenly realized he had just pulled over the big boss; an officer who faced the unenviable decision of whether or not to lay a fine on him.

The tell though, came when the moderator said he wouldn't ask about the dollar value of the ticket. Paulson's expression went from a broad grin to 'oh-oh' in a flash as he seemed to realize he had stepped in it.

But the commissioner was soon back on message track, reassuring the audience the RCMP was in good hands, that harassment, favouritism, and other sins of the past were being dealt with in a firm but fair way.

Paulson, to his credit, seems to enjoy being in front of an audience, delivering his lengthy address off-the-cuff and in a more entertaining fashion than many Ottawa denizens. And the audience seemed to like a cop who didn't speak like a walking news release.
Funny story, tough scrum

Later, talking to reporters, he was clearly not pleased when the speeding incident came up.

At first, he said, "Aw, it was just a story I made up." Pressed further he changed course, saying, "No, I don't want to talk about that. I do not want to talk about that."
Paulson scrum

Globe and Mail reporter Sunny Dhillon asks Paulson to clarify what by now had become a confusing series of statements. (CBC)

He then went on to other topics, but Globe and Mail reporter Sunny Dhillon asked him to clarify what was now a confusing series of statements.

Finally Paulson said, "It was a joke," but yes it did happen, and he had been given a warning by the officer rather than a speeding ticket. The final question, which Paulson clearly didn't like was, "Did you get preferential treatment by not getting a ticket?" Paulson delivered a firm "No" and then, clearly at his limit, ended the news conference.

Paulson was irritated likely because, hey, he was just trying to get a laugh with a folksy little anecdote and then the nit picking media blows it up into a big deal.

But the problem, seemingly lost on him, is that the theme of Paulson's speech, and indeed much of his tenure, has been about a national police force that's fair, transparent and accountable.

What the commissioner obviously didn't realize on the fly was that his story may have undermined his core message. If he wasn't accountable, if an officer wouldn't dare write up the boss caught red-handed, where's the veracity in that messaging?

That's not to say he escaped the ticket due solely to his position. Many of us have been pulled over by the RCMP and some of us have been as fortunate as Paulson to drive away with a warning rather than a ticket.

But when you are discussing how everyone in this new RCMP is accountable it might not be the best plan to talk about how you weren't held accountable, humorous anecdote or not.

In this case, that speeding infraction didn't cost him that day on the highway, but did catch up with him at, of all places, a board of trade luncheon.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
My experience, gathered over many years, is that in general, Ford Mustang V8 jocks are the worst, followed by those in the BMW 3-series. You'll find a fair number of aggressive Porsche drivers, too, but not as many as the other two.

Usually, red-light runners do so at low speeds, or speed up during a yellow light. But, though it is not done very often, I have seen people just barrel through a standing red light as high as 30 MPH without even slowing down. That is scary.
Yeah, V8 Mustang drivers are aggressive here too and want to race everyone.. I swear these drivers would try to race someone on a bicycle. As for BMW drivers it goes without saying that most on the road are very aggressive. From what I have experienced a young girl driving a BMW is someone to stay away from. Porsche drivers in my experience usually aren't bad.

The red light runners and lack of respect for the rules of the road is getting to be a major problem. Several years ago I was approaching an intersection when I heard sirens but wasn't sure where it was coming from. As I got closer to the intersection I could see flashing lights reflecting off buildings to my left, but I still didn't see an emergency vehicle. So regardless I of course slowed and came to a stop.

I look up in my mirror and here comes this Subaru Forester barreling towards me, I put on the hazards, I wave my arm out the window trying to slow this guy down and all he does is get on the horn. All this as a fire truck is approaching the intersection with their lights flashing and sirens on. Well this jerk proceeds to go around me and T-Bone the fire truck. He was taken away on a stretcher and fortunately none of the Firemen were hurt.

From what I heard, he was on his phone and the person he was on the phone with kept calling back. Finally one of the emergency people at the scene answered his phone, and the caller said" I was just on the phone with him and we got disconnected"..

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Originally Posted by Aron9000
A Dodge truck is a douche bag ride IMO. Just something about the demographic that they appeal to, especially the older, cheap ones. Bunch of idiot redneck, trailer trash people driving them, if I must stereotype. Especially the Cummins diesel models, they like to hop them up and make them "roll coal", ie dump too much fuel into the engine to where it escapes out the back in the form of black smoke.
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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JT4
I look up in my mirror and here comes this Subaru Forester barreling towards me, I put on the hazards, I wave my arm out the window trying to slow this guy down and all he does is get on the horn. All this as a fire truck is approaching the intersection with their lights flashing and sirens on. Well this jerk proceeds to go around me and T-Bone the fire truck. He was taken away on a stretcher and fortunately none of the Firemen were hurt.
Hmmm.......T-Boning a city fire truck. He better not only have a darn good explanation, but some darn good insurance as well.
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