Gas prices...
the issue is out of state gas doesnt have the required additives for Cali so essentially out of state gas is illegal. So you get these shortages when there is a disruption of a Cali facility. Yes it's really ridiculous. If out of state places could sell their gas for $4.60 there, Cali would be flooded with gas and bring the price down.
seen 2.40 regular and 2.79 for premium here
seen 2.40 regular and 2.79 for premium here
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Filled up at $2.60 in MA today. When is California ever going to come to its senses? Does everyone have to leave? Amazing they keep voting for their own demise.
If you took governments out of the gas business around the world, gas would probably be .99.gal or less. If private business could drill as much as they wanted, where they wanted...
If you took governments out of the gas business around the world, gas would probably be .99.gal or less. If private business could drill as much as they wanted, where they wanted...
Filled up at $2.60 in MA today. When is California ever going to come to its senses? Does everyone have to leave? Amazing they keep voting for their own demise.
If you took governments out of the gas business around the world, gas would probably be .99.gal or less. If private business could drill as much as they wanted, where they wanted...
If you took governments out of the gas business around the world, gas would probably be .99.gal or less. If private business could drill as much as they wanted, where they wanted...
taxes aren't the biggest issue. it's insane and crushing regulations and policies that seem to make the u.s. prefer importing oil and gas than using our own. can't drill offshore, can't drill in anwr, can't build more refining capacity, california having byzantine and 'unique' formulations, turning food (corn) into 10-15% of our fuel because it helps farmers and agribusiness (and politicians). just a sample of the insanity forcing us to continue to rely on reliable 'partners' like saudi arabia, venezuela, isis, and others. oh and let's not forget iran that we're about to let flood the world with more oil while they finish up their nuclear weapons. what could possibly go wrong?
taxes aren't the biggest issue. it's insane and crushing regulations and policies that seem to make the u.s. prefer importing oil and gas than using our own. can't drill offshore, can't drill in anwr, can't build more refining capacity, california having byzantine and 'unique' formulations, turning food (corn) into 10-15% of our fuel because it helps farmers and agribusiness (and politicians). just a sample of the insanity forcing us to continue to rely on reliable 'partners' like saudi arabia, venezuela, isis, and others. oh and let's not forget iran that we're about to let flood the world with more oil while they finish up their nuclear weapons. what could possibly go wrong?
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.............and in Venezuela, where the Socialist/Communist government has heavily subsidized the oil industry for years to keep gas prices dirt cheap.
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Illinois got clanked recently as a refinery went off line unexpectedly.
One morning regular was $2.7x and in the afternoon it spiked to $3.4x.
Something fishy I say.
It came down about a dime since then but the consumer is getting ripped at the moment around here.
One morning regular was $2.7x and in the afternoon it spiked to $3.4x.
Something fishy I say.
It came down about a dime since then but the consumer is getting ripped at the moment around here.
Last edited by S2000toIS350; Aug 18, 2015 at 07:12 PM.
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What??!! You’ve never seen the brown haze in the IE, LA basin or the valley? A quote from the South Coast Air Quality Management District, “SCAQMD is the air pollution control agency for all of Orange County and the urban portions of Los Angeles, Riverside and San Bernardino counties, among the smoggiest regions of the U.S.”
http://www.aqmd.gov/
Not saying we don’t live in a beautiful area, but in some areas inland, the smog and air quality is a serious issue.
http://www.aqmd.gov/
Not saying we don’t live in a beautiful area, but in some areas inland, the smog and air quality is a serious issue.
The main thing though is it's not the added taxes to keep the environment clean. That is the excuse the execs and oil companies are trying to feed to us. If all the extra cost of environmentally clean gas was added up, we should only be paying 20-30 cents above the national average. Rather, we are at least a dollar above, which keeps getting brushed under the carpet. These crooks know we like to drive and don't give it up. So why not just keep the price as high as possible, make astronomical profits, and feed the excuses? It's the perfect storm.
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They blame the same refinery issues for the rise in price in south eastern Canada, and the fact that summer blend is a special regional formulation so it "costs" more. Funny, because I thought winter's oxygenated formulation was the special one. We basically pay what California is paying one you factor in exchange rate and measurement unit conversions. On top of that, there is almost a dollar a gallon difference between regular and premium.