Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Gas prices...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 02:11 PM
  #16  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,208
Likes: 220
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Shell Gas in my neighborhood is the highest I've seen it since the summer of 2008. Regular is now $3.74, Premium $4.14.

Funny how the same people that mocked the "Drill, Baby Drill" mantra in the 2008 campaign are now complaining about gas prices.
I'm not a liberal myself (and I supported the "Drill, Baby, Drill" policy), but the fact is that high gas prices, today do NOT seem to be causes by any shortages caused by a lack of drilling. The current prices were not brought about by a real shortage, but simply an anticipated one on the part of speculators. They simply panicked at what was happening in several North African and Mideast countries, with the political unrest, and bid up raw crude prices up to unrealistically high levels. The loss of any Libyan crude, for example, beacuse of the war there, is only 1-2% of the world's supply, hardly enough for the recent big price-runup.

Sadly, we have moved away from a time when we had true, market-based, supply-and-demand pricing in the world oil market, to a later time when prices were dictated mostly by OPEC, and finally to the way it is now, when they are strongly influenced by run-of-the-moment oil-price speculation.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:05 PM
  #17  
Jewcano's Avatar
Jewcano
No Sir, I Don't Like It
CL Folding 1,000,000
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,754
Likes: 11
From: Jax, FL
Default

^WHO are the speculators and what purpose do they serve? Did they not exist when prices were factored by supply and demand? I'm just having a hard time understanding why we are using this **** poor method of 'speculation' instead of actual market demand?
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:17 PM
  #18  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,208
Likes: 220
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by Jewcano
^WHO are the speculators and what purpose do they serve? Did they not exist when prices were factored by supply and demand? I'm just having a hard time understanding why we are using this **** poor method of 'speculation' instead of actual market demand?
This site, although a few years old, does a good job of explaining it....probably better than I could. It's a long article, so I won't print the whole text.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=8878
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:17 PM
  #19  
IS-SV's Avatar
IS-SV
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,100
Likes: 1
From: tech capital
Default

$4.059 to $4.099 for Chevron regular here today in Silicon Valley, with uplift on premium in range of $0.18 to $0.20.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:36 PM
  #20  
Kira X's Avatar
Kira X
桜犯罪シンジケート
CL Folding 10,000
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,678
Likes: 663
From: 東京都
Default

Last time I checked, premium is $3.69 around here. Since my SC gets terrible mileage, these prices are killing me. Luckily I have a more fuel efficient car to get me to work and school.

If gas hit $4 around here, I'd have to quit driving my SC all together.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 05:46 PM
  #21  
CDNROCKIES's Avatar
CDNROCKIES
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 3
From: Alberta
Default

Premium was $4.22/gallon here in Bellevue, WA today.

Still a deal compared to the $1.26/liter ($5.04/gallon) at home when we left on Tuesday.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 07:15 PM
  #22  
GiantsFan's Avatar
GiantsFan
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,550
Likes: 12
From: CA - Norcal
Default

Regular is around $4.00-$4.30 in the SF area... with premium anywhere from $4.30 to $4.50..
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 07:50 PM
  #23  
Bigrahizzl's Avatar
Bigrahizzl
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,673
Likes: 0
From: N. VA
Default

what goes up, must come down. So relax, it was the same way in 2008
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:36 PM
  #24  
bad co's Avatar
bad co
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Park Ridge IL
Default

Originally Posted by Bigrahizzl
what goes up, must come down. So relax, it was the same way in 2008
Thats the stupidest thing I have heard so far this year...
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:42 PM
  #25  
Bigrahizzl's Avatar
Bigrahizzl
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,673
Likes: 0
From: N. VA
Default

^^^^ really??? sounds like u've had a ****ty life
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 09:54 PM
  #26  
KillaIS250's Avatar
KillaIS250
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 9,120
Likes: 10
From: 909, CA
Default

Filled premium in my car for $4.19, and $3.99 for regular in my girls car.

I'm skeptical that gas prices will hit $5. In this market, i doubt that would last very long, i'm sure there's a good chunk of people that absolutely cannot afford a full tank of gas at $5/gal.

If gas hit $5 a gallon, i would pretty much be driving only to and from work lol
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:13 PM
  #27  
LunaVyohr's Avatar
LunaVyohr
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Default

Oil companies aren't stupid. I don't think gas prices will stay this high. They want to make a profit, but they also want people to keep buying more. People won't buy as much if it costs $5.00.

But, I could be very wrong.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:22 PM
  #28  
xsh0tya's Avatar
xsh0tya
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 1
From: ON, Canada
Default

People will buy it if they need it, which they do. They just gotta put it real high 5 for a couple of days then put it down to 4 and we think we got a deal.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:33 PM
  #29  
bruce van's Avatar
bruce van
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,068
Likes: 1
From: California
Default

If gas prices stay high, it is going to affect the economic recovery. I don't think the government will want this, but then again, they've been pushing for people to drive more fuel efficient vehicles.

Maybe this is the catalyst they have been waiting for. Maybe the government wants people to dump their cars and buy new fuel efficient cars from GM and Chrysler.

It gets sooo complicated now that the line between private and public has been crossed.
Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:39 PM
  #30  
stick's Avatar
stick
Pole Position
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 372
Likes: 1
Default

I hardly ever look at the price of gas anymore. I need it, so I pay for it. If gas was $10 a gallon I'd still fill up, I would not just fill half my tank.

I remember when gas was 0.60 cents a gallon in the mid 80s.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:58 PM.