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Old May 31, 2015 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
These type of spin outs seem to be the cause of 90% of supercar crashes. And they are often at these low speeds. If you don't understand how 500+ HP to the rear wheels works, then don't drive it.
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Another member of the "more money than brains" club. It seems that the ability to purchase a performance car does not carry with it the ability to drive it, nor the intelligence to know when you're in WAY over your head. These things are the life-blood of YouTube.
Exactly. Brains and skill don't necessarily go with money. (Lindsay Lohan, for one, proved that by wrecking two Mercedes SL65 AMGs, partially from alcohol) That's why some automakers who produce and sell high-performance cars toss in a driving course with it for first-time buyers......either standard, or at a lower price than it would otherwise cost on one's own.

From the link, it appears that while the driver had the "launch control" on, it is ONLY functional in first gear - meaning that when you upshift to second, you're on your own
.............and that is assuming that, once the Launch Control stops in second gear, it doesn't then rely or revert back to the normal traction and stability systems. A properly designed traction control, even with 500 HP going to the rear wheels , should prevent enough wheelspin to keep the rear from sliding out like that....and the stability system should bring the rear end back in line if it does start to spin. Of course, if the driver turned everything off intentionally, then you're right....he or she is on their own.


False sense of security, that. It seems that no amount of electronic wizardry will protect an immature fool from his folly. Sort of a roadgoing form of Darwinism in which the most unfit drivers are eliminated from the population, often by violent and expensive means.
True, a careless or idiotic enough driver might be able to beat the electronics, but the electronics, nevertheless, are usually there for a reason...we're not all Michael Shumachers.

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 08:25 AM
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GM probably ran out of budget to provide for a transition from LC in 1st to normal TC in 2nd. GM. As always. Run by Bean Counters.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 09:03 AM
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The real danger of all those electronic traction control and VSC systems is providing a "race" mode that allows highly skilled drivers to switch them off to use small doses of over and understeer to direct the vehicle under their control. That doesn't mean that drivers unfamiliar with the horsepower and handling characteristics of a full-on sports car have those requisite skills, and routinely dial up "race" mode. Worse yet, it doesn't mean they necessarily have the maturity and experience to reserve those excursions into danger for the track. Of all skills, ordinary males have the conviction that they are the world's best at two things, one of which is driving a high-performance automobile.

A track mitigates the difference between fantasy and reality in this belief - and it has a couple of undeniable advantages over any public road . . .
  1. You know that all of the traffic is (hopefully) traveling in your direction and the chances of a head-on or cross-traffic collision are minimal.

  2. You are reasonably assured that there are guardrails, SAFER barriers, or at least run-off strips that will offer some degree of protection.

  3. You have some confidence that other drivers on the course have similar degrees of high-performance driving experience and are reasonable, sober human beings.
Unfortunately, public streets do not offer similar advantages. As Broderick Crawford used to rumble at the conclusion of the '50's "Highway Patrol" TV show: "Leave your blood at the Red Cross, not on the highway."
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NickTee
That doesn't make it a supercar. Applying that same logic, this 700hp Civic would also be a supercar(it's definitely not a supercar):
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=281m52Kz_BI"]IMW-Tuned : 700hp Civic coupe, street tire annihilation - YouTube[/url

Are the C7 and the C7 Z06 impressive? Absolutely. But they're both sportcars.

Then that's also saying any supra / SC with 1200 hp is a supercar because it's got as much power as a bugatti veyron, not really the same thing as you said. But factory, it's got more power then some "supercars" out there.

Definitely impressive cars, including that Civic, too!

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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Stormwind
The aftershot.
that's not it ------ it's another crashed Z06...this is the actual aftermath....


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