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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 08:23 PM
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For 5 years I wouldn't worry about Continental reliability.

I didnt say say it didn't have any class, said it doesn't have any character. It's a fairly middle of the road car, and that comes across in the press reception it's gotten. Compare that reception to the CT6, a car that has a lot more character IMHO.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 01:09 PM
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Great new review from Motor Trend. http://www.motortrend.com/cars/linco...-drive-review/
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Looks like the Continental did pretty well in October. So much for the predictions of it being DOA.

Flagship
1. S - 2,420
2. CT6 - 1,316
3. Continental - 1,222
4. 7-1133
5. A8 - 354
6. LS - 352
7. XJ - 335
8. Panamera - 295
9. G90 - 92

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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Looks like the Continental did pretty well in October. So much for the predictions of it being DOA.

Flagship
1. S - 2,420
2. CT6 - 1,316
3. 7 - 1,133
4. Continental - 1,222
5. A8 - 354
6. LS - 352
7. XJ - 335
8. Panamera - 295
9. G90 - 92
I'd probably put it in more of a mid-level than flagship category, but if you did put it in flagship, it would be number 3, not 4. In any case, that's a nice showing for this month. Curious to see how sales hold up over time.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I'd probably put it in more of a mid-level than flagship category, but if you did put it in flagship, it would be number 3, not 4. In any case, that's a nice showing for this month. Curious to see how sales hold up over time.
That wasn't necessarily my listing...I just copied and posted it from another forum. It is, however, considered the Lincoln flagship. Good catch on your part for the #3, though..........I'll correct that.

I agree, though, that one month alone won't necessarily tell the whole story, but it certainly is a sign that the car is not DOA.....and also a sign that it will probably compete successfully with the CT6's RWD layout.

But, to be honest, I still think that it is the interior that is selling this car, more than its mechanicals.

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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I'd probably put it in more of a mid-level than flagship category, but if you did put it in flagship, it would be number 3, not 4. In any case, that's a nice showing for this month. Curious to see how sales hold up over time.
Why would you compare it to the flagships like the S or 7 or A8? It starts at $45K
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Why would you compare it to the flagships like the S or 7 or A8? It starts at $45K
I wouldn't...
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I wouldn't...
But you said if you put it in the flagship category,..just saying.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
But you said if you put it in the flagship category,..just saying.
No, I referenced the list Marshall posted and stated I think it should be in the mid-level category, however, if someone is going to include the Continental in that flagship list, it should at least be corrected to be in the correct order, as that list shows #4 selling more than #3.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
No, I referenced the list Marshall posted and stated I think it should be in the mid-level category, however, if someone is going to include the Continental in that flagship list, it should at least be corrected to be in the correct order, as that list shows #4 selling more than #3.
OK. I see what you mean. It is off to a good start.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
No, I referenced the list Marshall posted and stated I think it should be in the mid-level category, however, if someone is going to include the Continental in that flagship list, it should at least be corrected to be in the correct order, as that list shows #4 selling more than #3.
IMO it's a legit flagship......the Lincoln flagship. But, of course, we can debate all night about what category it belongs in....what really matters is the sales numbers. As Jill said, off to a good start.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 09:23 PM
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How many of those 1200 sales were fleet sales? I would bet 80%. Fleet managers have been waiting for this car a long time.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
In general, I keep a car about five years or so....that's a reasonably good place on the average depreciation-curve. My current Verano, though, has been so reliable (and it also gives you a lot for what it cost) that I'm not in any real hurry to replace it.

Despite my long history of being an auto-enthusiast and reviewer, though, I haven't owned a big full-size (or even mid-size) luxury car since the used ones I owned in college....decades ago. Perhaps it's time. I can afford one if I really want one.

I have to disagree on the Continental not having class or character. We haven't seen anything like this from Ford for decades, particularly with the interior. IMO, it's probably the (current) sedan equivalent of the Cadillac Escalade's bling (yes, more so than the CT6 itself). It's not perfect, though, and does need some further refining in a few areas.

The Genesis/G80 3.8L would be an excellent choice, too, since the 5.0L doesn't come in AWD, and, for me, RWD, even with traction-aids, doesn't cut it in the winter.
If you're willing to spend $50k on a new Continental, maybe you just need to go buy a nice 2012+ Lexus LS460 with really low miles in like new condition. IMO it beats the pants off the new Lincoln, a new Caddy CT6 or CTS, or a new ES350. The steep depreciation gives you really good value for money. Plus I think with the 2012 restyle, they addressed the sort of boring looks and the interior is several notches nicer than previous years. Lexus has been building IMO the ultimate Cadillac/Lincoln Town Car with the LS series since 1990, its like what Cadillac and Lincoln should have been but never was.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
If you're willing to spend $50k on a new Continental, maybe you just need to go buy a nice 2012+ Lexus LS460 with really low miles in like new condition. IMO it beats the pants off the new Lincoln, a new Caddy CT6 or CTS, or a new ES350. The steep depreciation gives you really good value for money. Plus I think with the 2012 restyle, they addressed the sort of boring looks and the interior is several notches nicer than previous years. Lexus has been building IMO the ultimate Cadillac/Lincoln Town Car with the LS series since 1990, its like what Cadillac and Lincoln should have been but never was.
I'd actually get a Continental over a 2012 LS460. The upgraded tech alone would be worth it to me.
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 11:24 PM
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I'm a new car person, so in general I'd always choose the new car but in that situation I still wouldn't choose a Continental. Nothing about the tech is incredible, I'd do a CT6...
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