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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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The 2014 refresh GC passed the moose test from the same outfit that did the above. The video is out there.
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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^^^ good news, thanks.

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
Here is the video just as an FYI. Hopefully, ur year was fixed. Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iSM6nhWWw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Seriously? You're not believing this crap are you? I followed that when it came out. They had the vehicle overloaded. Chrysler engineers went and tested it with them. It didn't do that. Chrysler did however make a change to the traction control system so it does not do that if it is improperly loaded. So irrelevant and tacky to even bring this up.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 05:16 AM
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And strangely nobody but those guys were ver able to make it do that
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 05:56 AM
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I'm surprised that they didn't use outriggers for that test. That's pretty much standard fare when Consumer Reports does a handling/rollover test....to prevent a real rollover, of course, and major harm to the vehicle or its occupants.

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sick21
Seriously? You're not believing this crap are you? I followed that when it came out. They had the vehicle overloaded. Chrysler engineers went and tested it with them. It didn't do that. Chrysler did however make a change to the traction control system so it does not do that if it is improperly loaded. So irrelevant and tacky to even bring this up.
U seem like just the type of buyer Chrysler was aiming for with their rolling-over prone 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
U seem like just the type of buyer Chrysler was aiming for with their rolling-over prone 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Riddle me this...why don't we see a rash of rollover accidents with 2011-2013 Jeep Grand Cherokees? There are certainly a ton of them around, I post on Jeep forums and Have never read of a rollover accident. I drove a 2011 Grand Cherokee for 3 years before I got the 2014 and there was never any indication that it was at all prone to rolling over.

All you have to do is look at the Explorer to know that if there were an issue with them rolling over...it would be on the news.

That was one test, and for some reason nobody else could ever replicate that result. In any event, the refreshed Grand Cherokee was put through the same test from the same folks and passed, so since that's the topic here this test isn't relevant.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
U seem like just the type of buyer Chrysler was aiming for with their rolling-over prone 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
No offense, but I think you are being much too hard on actual and potential Jeep buyers. First, sick21, bitkahuna, and SW13GS are not clueless....all three are experienced car guys (like many of us here on Car Chat) who usually know what they are talking about. Second, it gets back to a point I made some time ago, that this is simple grade-school physics.....a vehicle with a higher center of gravity is naturally going to be (potentially) more tipsy and prone to body lean with sharp steering inputs particularly when overloaded or carrying things on the roof. One does not necessarily have to be a car guru to figure that out......simply pass the fifth or sixth grade. Third, for those who have a Drivers' License and still can't figure that out on their own, warning labels have been installed, by Federal regulation, on a number of higher-slung vehicles (and in some Owners' Manuals" ) that caution that this class of vehicle is more prone to a possible rollover than everyday sedans. Fourth, if a rollover DOES occur, by Federal regulation, most newer SUVs have thick, strong roof-pillars that are much more resistant to allowing the roof to collapse than in previous years (one reason for slightly reduced visibility out some windows). So, if you DO flip it over while trying to avoid Bambi or a small child, your chances of getting squashed like a pancake are much less than before.

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I'm a little late to the party here but bit Congratulations on your purchase!

I had a Limited model, I think it's 1 or 2 models below yours, for a little over a week in December and put about 1,000 miles on it and it was very nice especially on the highway.

I saw your comment in the heat/cool seat controls in the nav screen, I will say that I found the nice part about them being there was that it enabled programing them to remote start. I set the heated wheel, seat, front and rear defroster to come on. In the morning pointed the remote out the hotel window and then 10 mins later when I went to the car it was hmmm toasty I'm sure it would be equally as nice for you with the cool settings.

As for the shifter it did take a day to get used to the finer movements but it's pretty intuative.

Congrats again on your purchase and enjoy it in good health.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:32 AM
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One also would wonder, if you're doing a test with no outriggers, safety cage, etc, and you have a "near rollover" like that, would you as a test driver keep hammering the same thing over and over again? Or would you stop and say "this things not safe" and discontinue the test?

The vehicles reaction may look scary, but I think that it's actually a lot less dangerous than it looks...which is why the testers were willing to Keep doing it over and over and over. It certainly has given their test a lot of worldwide attention.

As for the shifter I cuss at it still 9 months in lol

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TripleL
I had a Limited model, I think it's 1 or 2 models below yours, for a little over a week in December and put about 1,000 miles on it and it was very nice especially on the highway.
Any issues with it?...or was that just a rented vehicle for a week? From some owner-reposts here on CL, the 2014-15 models seem to be more reliable than earlier ones.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Any issues with it?...or was that just a rented vehicle for a week? From some owner-reposts here on CL, the 2014-15 models seem to be more reliable than earlier ones.
It was a rental for a week while on business. It was a 14 with about 6K miles on it. It was trouble free during my short time with it.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
One also would wonder, if you're doing a test with no outriggers, safety cage, etc, and you have a "near rollover" like that, would you as a test driver keep hammering the same thing over and over again? Or would you stop and say "this things not safe" and discontinue the test?
Agreed. Seems like that video was done more for hype than as a credible handling/rollover test.


As for the shifter I cuss at it still 9 months in lol
Yours has the T-Handle?

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 06:54 AM
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Yup. I Always have a hard time getting it in the right gear.
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pamperme
U seem like just the type of buyer Chrysler was aiming for with their rolling-over prone 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
ok pamperme, you've made your point but this isn't a jeep bashing or debate thread thanks.

Originally Posted by SW13GS
Yup. I Always have a hard time getting it in the right gear.
lol, i had to adjust to it a little, but if i DON'T think about it, it's fine.
button/tap back to go to reverse
button/pull back to go to drive
button/push back to go to park
i'm good.

mmarshall - all '14 and up have the 't' handle as you showed i believe. i love that there's no leather to collect dust and dirt. chrysler has moved to the dial on other models, but i'm ok with this stubby handle. on a side note, one this i find ludicrous on the new miata is the giant hand brake handle, but i guess they keep it there for the auto crossers mayber who want to use it in cornering? otherwise i think it's a horrible eye sore.
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