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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 06:55 PM
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LS500h has the Multi-Stage transmission from the LC500h

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 06:59 PM
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I like the black...
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:34 PM
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It looks very stately in that black color. I'm curious to see what the interior differences will be, if any.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
And what is so wrong with that? I still consider Lexus a high end Toyota. Lexus has Toyota DNA in everything they do.
Nothing wrong with that at all my point is that just because it's a Toyota product they wouldn't get it regardless if it was the best car in the world their issue is it's a Toyota product. To each their own.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:45 PM
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from that black LS pic you can see they definitely have tesla in their sites...
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by davyjordi
but does the g90 carry enough panache given the industry you work in?
now there's a word i hate... "panache"...



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of course i have, but the brand is lacking in heritage and comes from a parent company that is struggling itself within the north american market to shake its terrible reputation.
hyundai/kia does not have a 'terrible reputation' today. given how competitive the market is, they would not be selling probably over a million vehicles a year in u.s.

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hyundai and kia still have a reputation to shake amongst certain socioeconomic circles.
they 'grey poupon' set is not likely to buy a genesis any time soon. even the wonderful LS hasn't an easy time of it among today's s-class, 7 series, tesla, etc. but hopefully this new one will change that.

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Agreed some people would never get one no matter how reliable they are simply because of the name. I know some Euro folks that would never get Lexus simply because it's a Toyota product it is what it is.
there will always be those who 'have' to have the 'established' badge that says they've arrived, whether it's the best vehicle or not. basically they're posers.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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^^^The historical description of panache is hilarious ha ha. Need to google image that.
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
hyundai/kia does not have a 'terrible reputation' today. given how competitive the market is, they would not be selling probably over a million vehicles a year in u.s.
They still do have a terrible reputation with one group of people LOL.............

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by plex
Nothing wrong with that at all my point is that just because it's a Toyota product they wouldn't get it regardless if it was the best car in the world their issue is it's a Toyota product. To each their own.
All good. I can see how some won't buy it based on your explanation.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
I like the black...
I do too.
I'm also curious to see the other OEM wheel options.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:04 AM
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I like that they look the same outside. I had the Infiniti before.
This model has similar wheels
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
now there's a word i hate... "panache"...
I actually walk around every day with a "panache" on my head. Doesn't everybody?
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:19 AM
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Are we sure about the powertrain in the Hybrid? Are we just assuming the LC and LS hybrids get the 354HP hybrid setup from GS450h? A hybrid setup on the twin-turbo engine from the LS500 should be really good.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
I actually walk around every day with a "panache" on my head. Doesn't everybody?
I don't think the peasants do.

I thought panache was something served at breakfast with syrup.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
I actually walk around every day with a "panache" on my head. Doesn't everybody?
I walk around with car talk on my head LOL.
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