View Poll Results: Is Lexus a leader or follower TODAY?
Leader
11
27.50%
Follower
10
25.00%
Both
18
45.00%
Neither
1
2.50%
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Lexus - leader or follower?
Lexus Champion
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: TX
There is nothing Elegant in E class at all... it has weird lines and proportions... with new facelift it looks like someone joined two different cars together.
Now their actually new cars are excellent and fluid... like S class and C class (fully optioned), but E class is definetly not fluid...
Now their actually new cars are excellent and fluid... like S class and C class (fully optioned), but E class is definetly not fluid...
How does this front and rear look like 2 different cars?
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Lexus Fanatic
Joined: May 2012
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From: Maryland
This is unfortunately what the front of the refreshed E Class looks like:
I agree that the new front end does not match the lines of the rest of the car, I think it looked better before the refresh.
Lexus Fanatic
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From: Maryland
I much prefer that grille, but all of the ones I've seen with that grille are base models, and the base headlights and trim look VERY cheap. Even with that grille, the rounded styling of the front just doesn't translate into the angular rest of the car IMHO.
Lexus Fanatic
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yep, exactly.
Lexus Fanatic
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From: Maryland
I love what MB has done with the S and C Class, with the E its like they've tried to meld that front with their old design language...I'm sure the all new E will be great, just judging from the C...
Lead Lap
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: Washington
They did try to meld it together. The head designer of MB cars got fired. New guy is very talented and grafted his new design onto the angular designs of his predecessor. It doesn't bother me in person for whatever reason...I think the E63 AMG looks fantastic. The E-class coupe/cab looks amazing to me in pics and in real life...for some reason it took to the facelift much better.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2008
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From: Canuckistan
yeah that's foul. 
and off topic. 
anyway, back to lexus...
with the is, es, gs pretty new right now, the addition of the new nx and rc, if the next gen rx and gx are hits then lexus could really get on a big roll and be more of a leader again.
about the rx to me, the new highlander is way better, so i expect the new rx to be incredible.
and off topic. anyway, back to lexus...
with the is, es, gs pretty new right now, the addition of the new nx and rc, if the next gen rx and gx are hits then lexus could really get on a big roll and be more of a leader again.
about the rx to me, the new highlander is way better, so i expect the new rx to be incredible.
Lexus Fanatic
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yeah that's foul. and off topic.
anyway, back to lexus...
with the is, es, gs pretty new right now, the addition of the new nx and rc, if the next gen rx and gx are hits then lexus could really get on a big roll and be more of a leader again.
about the rx to me, the new highlander is way better, so i expect the new rx to be incredible.
and off topic. anyway, back to lexus...
with the is, es, gs pretty new right now, the addition of the new nx and rc, if the next gen rx and gx are hits then lexus could really get on a big roll and be more of a leader again.
about the rx to me, the new highlander is way better, so i expect the new rx to be incredible.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,763
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From: TX
"The German Three have a brand image that they have cultivated over the past century in their long history, but Lexus is not in people's minds like that yet," said Fukuichi, who is also Toyota's Senior Managing Officer, referring to Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz .
"Customers would leave us if we have any problems with quality because that is what they are seeking in a Lexus," he told Reuters.
"Customers would leave us if we have any problems with quality because that is what they are seeking in a Lexus," he told Reuters.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: TX
Thats not the actual front end of the refreshed E Class, thats a rendering. I wish it were...but its not.
This is unfortunately what the front of the refreshed E Class looks like:
I agree that the new front end does not match the lines of the rest of the car, I think it looked better before the refresh.
This is unfortunately what the front of the refreshed E Class looks like:
I agree that the new front end does not match the lines of the rest of the car, I think it looked better before the refresh.
https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehic...-E/model-E350W
For the ones who do not like the interior, I love simplicity over complexity
Lexus Fanatic
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Chikoo - those pics show the same - very round/japanese even design in the front, and straight back... your first pic was rendering, not real car. I see plenty of them around.
overall with amg package, i think it looks good, but it is as far as possible from clean... that goes from interior - it is as far away from simplicity as possible - i counted 47 buttons on HVAC.
overall with amg package, i think it looks good, but it is as far as possible from clean... that goes from interior - it is as far away from simplicity as possible - i counted 47 buttons on HVAC.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: TX
Chikoo - those pics show the same - very round/japanese even design in the front, and straight back... your first pic was rendering, not real car. I see plenty of them around.
overall with amg package, i think it looks good, but it is as far as possible from clean... that goes from interior - it is as far away from simplicity as possible - i counted 47 buttons on HVAC.
overall with amg package, i think it looks good, but it is as far as possible from clean... that goes from interior - it is as far away from simplicity as possible - i counted 47 buttons on HVAC.