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Old 04-11-14, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GS3Tek
Are they seriously going for the ugly odyssey look (rear)???

i used to hate it, but it has grown on me.


i like the look of sedona's rear better, but ody's rear is probably more functional
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Maybe right now the Sedona can't compete with the Sienna and Odyssey but you better believe that's who Kia is targeting with this new car. They're pushing their brand up as quickly as possible. They're not going to bargain basement minivan shoppers anymore. I expect a full host of luxury and technology options. No AWD, but should have everything else.

i agree. looks like they are very serious about going after sienna/ody. rendering looks very promising. i see a huge price jump too.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
You're not going to have to wait long. Have you been paying attention at all to what Kia has been striving for lately? Cadenza priced right in line with the top of segment Avalon, etc. While giving more technology. So yes there's still some pricing advantage, but they're really hitting execution of product quite well.
The Cadenza, IMO, actually has better overall build-quality than the latest-generation Avalon. I did a full-review on both...wasn't impressed with the new Avalon at all except for its smooth drivetrain, wood-tone trim inside, and slick paint job. The rest of the car, IMO, felt thin and flimsy....and its ride is (now) too firm.
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the cadenza and azera are flops. they don't sell well.

just wish the nissan quest was the El Grande version. it's so foouking ztoupid that nissan chose the quest as the front end for USDM van.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The Cadenza, IMO, actually has better overall build-quality than the latest-generation Avalon. I did a full-review on both...wasn't impressed with the new Avalon at all except for its smooth drivetrain, wood-tone trim inside, and slick paint job. The rest of the car, IMO, felt thin and flimsy....and its ride is (now) too firm.

Sorry, Mike, but what you described are NOT examples of poor build quality. They are evidence of decisions explicitly made much earlier than the build (production) stage, at the design (or even earlier) stages. Thin and flimsy metal is a result of a decision to use thinner sheet metal to "add lightness" to the car, and a firm ride is a decision made to make the car "sportier". These are decisions that cannot be made at the build stage but must have been made much earlier (perhaps years earlier).

Examples of poor build quality would be switches inside that do not align with the panel around it, 2 or more panels (e.g. on the doors or on the dashboard) that do not align, switches or window cranks that fall off in your hands, or many rattles on a new car.

The Avalon, if it does have thin, flimsy body panels and a too-firm ride (I have not driven one), was designed to be that way; it was designed (it had to be designed, not just built) to be different from it predecessors.

We have seen examples of true poor build quality in previous generations of the Avalon: misaligned panels and rattles. Do we have this on the new Avalon (or new Cadenza)?
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need more info on this new Sedona...this is in the running (assuming these teaser shots are at all representative) along with a Sienna for kid hauling duties
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Just out of curiosity, I drove a Cadenza and an Avalon over the weekend. I was prepared to love the Avalon and find the Cadenza a bit unrefined. Boy, was I ever wrong. Remember, style is a personal thing, so many might disagree with me. The Avalon exterior was very nice, but the Cadenza killed it for style. The interiors were both very nice with the Avalon maybe just a bit nicer. The drives were totally different. The "refined" Avalon rode like a Jeep Wrangler! Harsh over small bumps and severe over larger ones. Road noise was high. The Cadenza was smooth over most road surfaces and was so quiet I even questioned if there were some wind noise. In the Avalon, wind noise was never a question, the road noise was so high. Performance was similar with the Avalon perhaps just a bit quicker. I'm worried that the Koreans have taken over the Toyota smooth quiet rides while Toyota chases the young buyers of German cars that would never buy a Toyota anyway.

There will be no K900 KIAs in Tucson so I don't know where to go for my next car. My Lexus salesperson just called. They have a 2013 LS460 with less than 10,000 miles. I'm 74 years old, so maybe my last car will be a used Lexus.
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oldcajun, having spent a bunch of time in a friend's new avalon limited, i agree it's noisy and harsh. i don't even like the weird dash design either. never been in a cadenza though.
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The previous Avalon was mini LS. I've heard that the new Avalon no longer feels like an Avalon.
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Avalon rides like a Wrangler? Is loud? Good lord, you people are nuts. My grandparents have a '10 Limited, I've driven that, the new car, and the prior 2 generations. So have they. Nobody noticed any difference or "harshness" in the ride.
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Originally Posted by Sulu
Sorry, Mike, but what you described are NOT examples of poor build quality. They are evidence of decisions explicitly made much earlier than the build (production) stage, at the design (or even earlier) stages. Thin and flimsy metal is a result of a decision to use thinner sheet metal to "add lightness" to the car, and a firm ride is a decision made to make the car "sportier". These are decisions that cannot be made at the build stage but must have been made much earlier (perhaps years earlier).
................Both of which, IMO, are major errors on the part of the designers.. I respect your opinion, but I simply do not agree with it.

Examples of poor build quality would be switches inside that do not align with the panel around it, 2 or more panels (e.g. on the doors or on the dashboard) that do not align, switches or window cranks that fall off in your hands, or many rattles on a new car.
Check out the paper-thin glove box door, flimsy latch, heated-seat ***** on the console that feel like they are going to twist off in your fingers, many of the *****/buttons, and much of the general interior hardware, and I think you will see at least part of what I am talking about. Now, I fully agree that the wood-tone and brushed-metal trim LOOKS nice on the surface, but it suffers from the same problem that the big 1Gen Buick Enclave did......flashy, rich-looking trim actually made out of thin cheap plastic.

The Avalon, if it does have thin, flimsy body panels and a too-firm ride (I have not driven one), was designed to be that way; it was designed (it had to be designed, not just built) to be different from it predecessors.
Exactly. And that is where the error was made. The Avalon is not meant to be a sport-sedan. It is supposed to be exactly what what made the car a success is.....comfort, quietness, and (by today's standards) a soft, quiet ride. The same error was made (to a lesser extent), with the new Lexus ES. Its ride comfort and noise isolation has also been noticeably lessened from the previous models.

Do we have this on the new Avalon (or new Cadenza)?
I've done full-reviews on both. The Cadenza seems more solidly-built overall, than the new Avalon. But the Avalon, to its credit (and, yes, I WILL give it credit where due), continues the reputation of excellent Toyota paint jobs and smooth, well-engineered, refined power trains.
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Perhaps the current Avalon is just a different car than what we became accustomed to - more of a Maxima competitor than a Buick. Sales of the car have never been better, so I expect Toyota to follow this formula going forward.

Now, back to the Kia Sedona...
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Originally Posted by Tantrix
the cadenza and azera are flops. they don't sell well.
The Azera was a flop primarily because of strong Sonata sales and competition from the larger Genesis. To an extent, the very strong Camry sales also impacted those of the Azera's rival Avalon...though the Avalon was still a success, it is obvious that many of its potential customers chose the cheaper Camry instead. With the Cadenza, it's too early to tell. Kia, of course, is introducing the larger K900, that car is (supposedly)* based on the Hyundai Equus platform. Kia simply doesn't (?) have a Genesis-based car in the American market yet that could be a real threat to Cadenza sales....though the hot-selling Optima may impact on it some, like the Sonata does with the Azera.

* Actually, sources seem to differ on whether the K900 is a straight-Equus platform or whether it is a stretched Genesis one.

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ALL-NEW 2015 KIA SEDONA MAKES GLOBAL DEBUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW

* Completely Redesigned Midsize Multi-purpose Vehicle Raises the Bar in the Segment with Innovative Technology, Style and Added Safety Features
* With its modern appearance and CUV-like cab-forward design, the all-new Sedona completes the restyling of Kia's entire U.S. lineup under the direction of Peter Schreyer
* Available in seven- and eight-passenger configurations, the 2015 Sedona advances value to new levels of sophistication with advanced safety features and available driving-aid technologies, premium materials and amenities

NEW YORK, April 14, 2014 – Set against the backdrop of one of the world's premier urban playgrounds, Kia Motors America (KMA) today took the wraps off the all-new 2015 Sedona midsize multi-purpose vehicle in New York City. As the final chapter in Kia's design-led transformation story – which began in 2009 and has seen a comprehensive makeover of Kia's entire model line under the direction of chief design officer Peter Schreyer – the all-new Sedona's CUV-like styling and proportions offer all of the functional convenience of the segment while defying its design limitations. In addition to innovative European-inspired design, the 2015 Sedona also delivers the exceptional interior volume buyers expect in the segment with ample passenger and cargo room and a quiet and comfortable cabin. Following the philosophy that has guided Kia's recent succession of highly successful redesigns, the Sedona advances value to new levels of sophistication with a host of segment-leading new technology and upscale features, all of which will be offered in a new premium trim level – SXL – which will be available when U.S. sales are scheduled to begin in the late third quarter or early fourth quarter of this year. Pricing will be announced closer to the Sedona's launch date.

"Throughout the development process, our engineers in the U.S. and Korea focused on adding the element of desire to the all-new Sedona with improved driving dynamics and power and the incorporation of modern styling cues, premium materials and technology," said Orth Hedrick, vice president, product planning, KMA. "Combined with a host of active and passive safety features and technology, the completely redesigned Sedona retains the functionality the nameplate has always been known for, while rising to meet the diverse needs – and tastes – of today's consumers."

Modern, Confident Exterior
Transcending mundane functionality, the Sedona's wide stance exudes a modern, CUV-like exterior appearance highlighted by a front fascia and cab-forward design that project confidence and strength. The Sedona's muscular face and clean, smooth look is highlighted by a fully integrated version of Kia's signature grille and headlamps with LED positioning lights. The wheelbase is 1.6-inches longer than its predecessor, and the side profile, with its reduced front and rear overhangs, combines with the deeply swept windshield and available 19-inch alloy wheels to create a distinctive look. Meanwhile, the rear design layout, with LED taillights, integrated bumper guard and standard roof spoiler, presents a broad, stable bearing.

Open, Relaxed, Configurable Interior
Despite its overall width and height remaining virtually unchanged, the all-new Sedona provides more front shoulder room, greater leg room in the front, second and third rows, as well as a slightly higher hip-point, improving outward visibility for the driver. The horizontal design cues across the instrument panel create a greater sense of width, and the generous use of soft-touch materials adds to the all-new Sedona's premium ambiance. The Sedona's proportions provide flexible seating in both seven- and eight-passenger configurations and a multitude of storage options. The front center console is unique to the segment and allows for generous and cleverly convenient storage space between the front seats. Second row Slide-n-Stow tracked seating slides and folds upright to allow for "on-the-go" cargo hauling while eliminating the hassle that comes with removing heavy and cumbersome middle seats. The all-new Sedona also offers the choice of second row "First Class" lounge seating that can be positioned rearward for astonishing legroom and provides retractable lower leg rests. And while some configurations feature segment-unique second-row seat cushion heaters for added comfort, all 2015 Sedona models offer a third-row that provides the convenience of a split folding 60/40 in-floor retractable design.

The Sedona also is the only vehicle in the segment outfitted with standard YES Essentials(tm) fabric technology to provide anti-microbial protection from spills, anti-static protection from irritating electrical shocks as well as stain-repelling and stain-releasing fabric characteristics appreciated by anyone who leads an active lifestyle.

The Sedona's sophisticated interior design theme is brought to life with a modern color palette featuring solid or two-tone color options in beige, gray and burgundy for a warm and inviting atmosphere. The top-line SXL trim features standard ultra-soft Nappa leather seating surfaces throughout the cabin, the same Chromium-free leather found in the K900 luxury sedan.

Next-Generation UVO1
Building on the next-generation UVO Infotainment & Telematics system, the all-new Sedona will be the first Kia vehicle to offer four new eServices features: Geo-fencing, Speed Alert, Curfew Alert and Driving Score. Additionally, with the introduction of the Kia App store, select apps can be downloaded for free from iTunes(r)2 or Google Play3. The Kia app connector is now available for partnership with the content community, including Pandora(r)4, iHeart Radio and Yelp(r)5. Many more new technologies for comfort and convenience are featured in the new UVO system, including Siri "Eyes Free6" and Local Search – powered by Google – for finding locations, addresses and points of interest. Sirius XM Travel Link7, offering access to traffic, weather, fuel prices, sports scores, stock information and movie times, makes the Sedona the perfect companion for those who live their lives on the road with family and friends.

Driving Dynamics and Safety
The 2015 Sedona is built on an all-new chassis with static torsional stiffness that is 36-percent greater than its closest segment competitor. The body is 76 percent Ultra High Strength Steel (press hardened) or High Strength Steel, which provides exceptional rigidity, durability and collision protection in a lightweight design. For enhanced roof strength, the Sedona has been engineered with reinforced pillars that distribute impact loads with ultra-high-strength steel tubes that run inside the A-pillars. Extensive use of adhesives and large diameter welds also add to Sedona's overall structural integrity and strength. Together with Kia's patented technology, the 2015 Sedona is targeted to earn the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's (NHTSA) 5-Star overall vehicle safety rating.

The rigid and durable chassis provides a solid base for road-trip readiness. The 2015 Sedona utilizes Amplitude Selected Dampers (ASD) to strike an optimal balance of ride comfort and handling. The platform also has revised rear cross-member bushings, an isolated rear sub-frame with longer trailing arms and added rear strut reinforcement, all of which combine for improved dynamic ride characteristics. Additionally, the 2015 Sedona is expected to be among the quietest in the segment thanks to wheel-house padding, double seal sliding doors and an expanded use of sound-deadening foam in the engine compartment, reducing noise and perceived harshness over rough pavement.

Under the hood, a new Lambda Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI) 3.3-liter V6 engine replaces the 3.5-liter V6 found in the previous generation Sedona. The 3.3-liter engine, which is also found in the Sorento CUV and Cadenza premium sedan, delivers more power than its predecessor, boasting 276 horsepower at 6,000 rpm, and it has been tuned for enhanced mid-range torque, offering 248 lb.-ft. at 5,200 rpm.

A three-step Variable Induction System (VIS) improves engine "breathing," automatically adjusting the volume of the air pulled into the combustion chamber to create the optimal air-to-fuel mix under different engine load conditions. Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) combined with a piston-cooling oil jet improves engine cooling efficiency, while engine components, including piston rings, piston skirts, valve tappets, timing chain guide and valve springs are all of a low-friction design.

Finally, the new 3.3-liter V6 engine is mated to a six-speed automatic transmission tuned for balanced control, power and efficiency.

Abundant Safety Features and Driver Technology
Throughout the design and development process a high priority was placed on active and passive safety features as well as technology, resulting in one of the most technologically advanced vehicles in the segment. All Sedona models come standard with active safety features such as Electronic Stability Control (ESC)8, Traction Control System (TCS)8, Brake Assist System (BAS)8, Hill-start Assist Control (HAC)8, Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)8 and Antilock Braking System (ABS)8. Additional technologies such as Roll Over Mitigation (ROM)8 and Cornering Brake Control (CBC)8 also were added as standard equipment for improved dynamic control and safety.

New optional driver technology, including Vehicle Stability Management (VSM)8, Forward Collision Warning System (FCWS)9, Smart Cruise Control (SCC)9, Blind Spot Detection (BSD)9 and Rear Cross Traffic Alert9, help provide Sedona drivers with a more convenient and secure daily driving experience.

Comfort & Convenience Features
From front to back the Sedona offers numerous convenience features, including Kia's first application of the newest high-power (2.1 AMP) USB charging port and a 115-volt AC outlet to charge small electronics as well as a dual glove box that offers a cooled lower storage area. For easier parking and vehicle maneuvering, the Surround View Monitor8 provides real-time images from cameras placed around the vehicle. Smart Welcome, automatically illuminates the door handles and unfolds the power retractable side mirrors when a vehicle key fob is detected. A hands-free "Smart Tailgate" opens the rear lift gate automatically when the key fob is sensed for three seconds, and its programmable function can be tailored to the user's height preference.

About Kia Motors America
Kia Motors America (KMA) is the marketing and distribution arm of Kia Motors Corporation based in Seoul, South Korea. KMA proudly serves as the "Official Automotive Partner" of the NBA and LPGA and surpassed the 500,000 annual sales mark for the second consecutive year in 2013 following the launch of seven all-new or significantly redesigned vehicles. KMA offers a complete line of vehicles, including the flagship K900 rear-drive sedan, Cadenza premium sedan, Sorento CUV, Soul urban passenger vehicle, Sportage compact CUV, Optima midsize sedan, Optima Hybrid, the Forte compact sedan, Forte5 and Forte Koup, Rio and Rio 5-door sub-compacts and the Sedona minivan, through a network of more than 765 dealers across the United States. Kia's U.S. manufacturing plant in West Point, Georgia, builds the Optima* and Sorento* and is responsible for the creation of more than 14,000 plant and supplier jobs.

Information about Kia Motors America and its full vehicle line-up is available at its website – www.kia.com. For media information, including photography, visit www.kiamedia.com. To receive custom email notifications for press releases the moment they are published, subscribe at http://www.kiamedia.com/us/en/newsalert.


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