Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Apparently Lexus is backing the right horse...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 01:26 AM
  #1  
natnut's Avatar
natnut
Thread Starter
Pole Position
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,602
Likes: 89
From: Singapore
Default Apparently Lexus is backing the right horse...

Lexus IS 300h Finishes First in Real-World Gas Mileage Test




UK magazine What Car? has compared the real-world gas mileage of five luxury sports sedans and found the Lexus IS 300h to deliver the best results.

The IS 300h, which is officially rated at 64.2 mpg in Britain, returned 59.6 mpg in the What Car? test. The Mercedes C220 CDI, despite having an official rating of 68.9 mpg, finished second with 57.5 real-world mpg.

Link : http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/real...-55mpg/1227764

summary : the best lexus hybrid has better real life fuel efficiency than the best european diesel while being more refined overall

( Thanks to Lexusenthusiast for the original find )
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 03:06 AM
  #2  
spwolf's Avatar
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 20,240
Likes: 274
Default

it is kind of funny that original review in What Car? (which is like CR in USA), mentions how hybrids get worse mpg than diesels

:-)
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 03:58 AM
  #3  
yowps3's Avatar
yowps3
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 0
From: NSW
Default

It's not secret that German brands MPG & CO2 figures are bull$H!T
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 04:22 AM
  #4  
spwolf's Avatar
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 20,240
Likes: 274
Default

Originally Posted by yowps3
It's not secret that German brands MPG & CO2 figures are bull$H!T
everyone's mpg figures are bull, they are gov mandated tests that are simply poor in EU, and it is done on purpose to give start/stop systems better look.

But still, proof that hybrids get better mpg than diesels, despite what every single review from german and uk media wrote, including what car themselves.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 04:26 AM
  #5  
Whitigir's Avatar
Whitigir
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 838
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
Default

I have never looked at diesel as being efficient. Hybrid is the right way to do so, and Japanese thought the same. Hence, Prius is best selling in Japan.

Thanks op for the good info
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 05:54 AM
  #6  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Great news.. Shame we miss out on new IS and GS hybrids and no more HS...
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 06:53 AM
  #7  
RNM GS3's Avatar
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,223
Likes: 253
From: New York
Default

^
thats bec nobody buys them.
If Lexus offered a hybrid version thats cheaper than the gas variant, it would have more success.
Sort of like the CT200h.

Ppl buy Prius cause its cheap and great on gas.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 07:07 AM
  #8  
LexBob2's Avatar
LexBob2
Lexus Champion
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,570
Likes: 282
From: Illinois
Default

A few months ago CR did a recap of the vehicles that missed their EPA estimates in their Road Test. 55% of the hybrids they tested missed theirs by 10% or more, 20% of small turbos by 10% or more and 10% of conventional gas engines. They didn't list diesels.

In general Toyota/Lexus hybrids came closer to their estimates than some of the other brands of hybrids.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 08:45 AM
  #9  
Infra's Avatar
Infra
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 1
From: TX
Default

Originally Posted by LexBob2
A few months ago CR did a recap of the vehicles that missed their EPA estimates in their Road Test. 55% of the hybrids they tested missed theirs by 10% or more, 20% of small turbos by 10% or more and 10% of conventional gas engines. They didn't list diesels.

In general Toyota/Lexus hybrids came closer to their estimates than some of the other brands of hybrids.
That's more of a flaw in the EPA test standards than the cars missing their ratings.

The biggest problem of the EPA tests is that report a number that seems realistic and obtainable, yet every single person's daily route and driving habit's differ. Essentially, the EPA reports the BEST YOU COULD EVER GET, and you can only go down from there.

No one in Europe believes they will get 65 MPG. They understand it's simply a test score.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 08:49 AM
  #10  
doge's Avatar
doge
Formerly Bad Co
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

Originally Posted by yowps3
It's not secret that German brands MPG & CO2 figures are bull$H!T
Fun fact following cars do better than advertised mpg...

Jetta TDi
ML350 Blue Tec
X5 35 D
335D
GLK250 Blue Tec
E250 Blue Tec
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 09:32 AM
  #11  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,521
Likes: 261
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by LexFather
Great news.. Shame we miss out on new IS and GS hybrids and no more HS...
At the D.C. show last week, the Lexus reps said that the HS was killed off by low sales (which, of course, most of us on CL already knew anyway). What surprised me, though, was that (apparantly), even Lexus management (according to the show-reps), after they had developed and marketed the HS, never really warmed up to the car, didn't think it looked like a proper Lexus, and didn't fit in with the company's lineup. Personally, I thought the HS was actually more Lexus-like than the small, cramped, rough-riding CT. But, according to the sales numbers (which, of course, one cannot argue with), the CT trumped the HS in sales month after month. One Lexus rep at the show said that a CT sedan was currently under development...the other reps were either mum on the subject or simply denied it.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 10:23 AM
  #12  
Hoovey689's Avatar
Hoovey689
2UR-GSE Owner
15 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 42,476
Likes: 321
From: California
Default

Bring the darn thing Stateside already!
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 11:27 AM
  #13  
natnut's Avatar
natnut
Thread Starter
Pole Position
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,602
Likes: 89
From: Singapore
Default

Originally Posted by doge
Fun fact following cars do better than advertised mpg...

Jetta TDi
ML350 Blue Tec
X5 35 D
335D
GLK250 Blue Tec
E250 Blue Tec
Fun fact. As the original What Car? article demonstrated, Lexus' latest hybrid is BEATING the latest Eurodiesels in real-world mpg.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:21 PM
  #14  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
^
thats bec nobody buys them.
If Lexus offered a hybrid version thats cheaper than the gas variant, it would have more success.
Sort of like the CT200h.

Ppl buy Prius cause its cheap and great on gas.
lol……the entire forum told you in the other thread your theory is wrong and why it was. You still are posting it up?

smh
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 02:46 PM
  #15  
doge's Avatar
doge
Formerly Bad Co
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

Originally Posted by natnut
Fun fact. As the original What Car? article demonstrated, Lexus' latest hybrid is BEATING the latest Eurodiesels in real-world mpg.
Im not disupting that, he said..

It's not secret that German brands MPG & CO2 figures are bull$H!T
and thats bull
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:04 AM.