Hopefully they have something to remedy the lack of halo-type performance and former enthusiast abilities in the works. I would imagine there's a full M variant Z5 in the works, beyond just the mentioned M40i. That could bring with it a true King Supra. Fingers crossed....

 

Well, from reading the rumors/speculations and mentioned above, the low end might be named celica, while the higher trim is the supra(?).
I'm a little disappointed also (more of not having high hopes), not mainly b/c of the hp ratings, but it's a bmw underneath with different body panels and slapping on a toyota emblem.

I may be in the minority, but I don't need a GTR killer hp and price it out of the stratosphere or to be anemic either since it's expected to be heavy (somewhere around the sub 4k pound).

Until the final reveal at Geneva at the end of the month, that's when we'll know for sure so I'm keeping my hopes up...

 

 

yeah but will it be reliable?

 

NOPE.

Toyota should distance itself as far as it can from this car. Not worthy of the Supra name whatsoever. Blech.

I can imagine the poor techs in the Toyota service departments trying to figure out this car. It's entirely BMW. Toyota will need to hire ex-BMW techs or side hire current ones to work on this thing.

 

^^^ sounds like a lot of training-never thought of it that way. And, tooling as well

 

The most cost effective thing to do here is just send the cars directly to BMW dealerships. Either the client takes it there himself or Toyota quietly sends each one after the client leaves. That will get old fast.

The other option, is basically setting up a BMW service center within a Toyota service center. Parts stock, BMW technical info, tools, techs, machinery, the works. Imagine a Toyota tech trying to decipher BMW's ISTA-D OEM Diagnostic suite. Hah! Hell, some of them can't even handle Toyota's Techstream.

All this infrastructure for ONE car?

Nah. I'd love to see how they decide to handle this. And for what: A Toyota bodied BMW named Supra? EW.

This whole project is stupid and blasphemous.

 

ya, you hit right on the head with this. all this to support 1 new model. i wonder how they resolved the part numbering??

it sounds like toyota may just want the engineering files for this car; solidworks project, CAD files, pcb schematics, pcb layouts, firmware projects, source code etc...

 

I'm starting to wonder if Toyota and BMW are colluding for the ultimate April Fools prank, years in the making

 

When I first read about this collaboration, I thought oh good BMW finally came to its senses and was going to learn something about component quality and long term reliability from Toyota. Guess the joke's on potential Supra buyers.

 

​​​​​​One can only hope.

 

I'm losing my excitement for this car.

 

The "high end" version should be the base Supra with a true high performance 475hp version to take it to a Corvette or 911 S. I don't need a GTR killer either and certainly don't want one priced along the lines of a GTR. I would have preferred the top Supra to be placed along the lines of a Corvette, maybe a little higher with more power and performance and a stance like a Corvette or LC500 over a low end Z5 roadster stance. I can't see why anyone would choose this new Supra over a 8 cylinder Mustang or Camaro let alone a Corvette. Who are they marketing this car to? Past Supra fans are not going to like it, it will be too expensive for lower priced muscle car/sports car fans and they won't be excited about a sports car with well under 400hp, it can't compete with a Corvette or 911 so it is not going to get any interest from that group.

 

This makes no sense to me. Why would they offer a Euro-only 'Supra' with around 200hp when they have the GT86 with that power? Either these posts about the Supra are misleading or guessing. I've seen lots of different pictures with Toyota test drivers in the car and the BMW is a rag top. Maybe they share the same chassis and stuff but that doesn't mean it's going to be a BMW with a Toyota badge. We'll see.