ToMoCo's CUV/SUV Range is Downright Boring

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Dec 5, 2013 | 01:28 PM

#31

nabbun

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

yes i have and it's only slightly less sleep inducing than ambien.

about as sporty as my refrigerator.

Damn . . . shot down and napalmed . . .

lol

Dec 5, 2013 | 01:34 PM

#32

nabbun

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Originally Posted by mmarshall

Unfortunately, you're right. While improving the overall finish and look of the interior plushness on the new Avalon (it's Lexus-grade now in plushness), they have notably downgraded the quality of the interior/exterior hardware and (unnecessarily, IMO) stiffened up the ride.

BTW, IMO, the Avalon, though noticeably stiffened for the latest version, has not had a true lazy-boy soft ride since the original 1Gen version back in the 1990s.

Yea. I hear you about the quality. It's sad to see ToMoCo being so aggressive in the cost cutting dept. The cars are getting better but, with a hit in interior quality like more cheap plasticy bits you would normally find in all of the competitor brands. I think quailty control has taken a major hit as well. My 2012 Camry Hybrid XLE A/C system broke. The tilt function for the sunroof opens but won't close. The Entune system is a complete turd. It never does half the things you want it to do correctly and it's always waaaaaaaay to slow to act to your inputs. Thank God Enform isn't nearly as bad.

Dec 5, 2013 | 11:21 PM

#33

Chocolate

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OP, out of curiosity what led you to the 4 cyl RAV4 if you feel this way? The 268HP '12 GR RAV4 only got 1 less MPG in observed mileage, but much better acceleration and could tow 3500 pounds.