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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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As long as it doesn't retain the current 3.5 and 6 speed, then I'll be happy. It needs at the very least, the direct/port of the GS with an 8 speed. However, I think they can detune it from the current 306hp to about 290 to get higher mpg numbers.
it will certainly have 8AT and new V6... although just because it has 8AT, doesnt mean it will be a lot better... RX F-Sport has 8AT and I believe members here said 6AT is better in that car.
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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I'm excited for a RR and x5 fighting RX!
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
it will certainly have 8AT and new V6... although just because it has 8AT, doesnt mean it will be a lot better... RX F-Sport has 8AT and I believe members here said 6AT is better in that car.
Well the f sport does gain 1 mpg over the standard 6 speed. Its not so much for performance, but to keep up with the competition stats wise
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Old Nov 25, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
Well the f sport does gain 1 mpg over the standard 6 speed. Its not so much for performance, but to keep up with the competition stats wise
Cant see why Lexus haven't developed a 300t seen as though theyve made the 200t. A 300t would be perfect for the RX
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Old Nov 25, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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Cant see why Lexus haven't developed a 300t seen as though theyve made the 200t. A 300t would be perfect for the RX
Ummm because they're completely different engine architectures and families? Just because you made one engine doesn't mean you can just slap that turbo on every engine and be done with it.
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Old Nov 25, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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Ummm because they're completely different engine architectures and families? Just because you made one engine doesn't mean you can just slap that turbo on every engine and be done with it.

I think that's what he's talking about. If Toyota can come up with an engine for the 200t, surely they have the capabilities to design a new engine for a "300t".
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Old Nov 25, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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I think that's what he's talking about. If Toyota can come up with an engine for the 200t, surely they have the capabilities to design a new engine for a "300t".
Overall capabilities yes, but resources are stretched thin at Toyota right now, especially in powertrains where every single vehicle group is asking for an update. Toyota has fallen a bit behind in terms of rolling out direct injection to the Toyota side, revamping the Lexus side, expanding adoption of 8-speed automatics, the whole fuel cell group, hybrids for the next gen Prius and beyond, etc.

There's a lot of work that goes into the development of a new technology, and then the amount of tuning for each specific application. Toyota is simply spread a little thin at the moment.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Overall capabilities yes, but resources are stretched thin at Toyota right now, especially in powertrains where every single vehicle group is asking for an update. Toyota has fallen a bit behind in terms of rolling out direct injection to the Toyota side, revamping the Lexus side, expanding adoption of 8-speed automatics, the whole fuel cell group, hybrids for the next gen Prius and beyond, etc.

There's a lot of work that goes into the development of a new technology, and then the amount of tuning for each specific application. Toyota is simply spread a little thin at the moment.
Its not like they havent got funding to make a 300t. They're the biggest carmaker in the world for gods sake!
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rayaans
Its not like they havent got funding to make a 300t. They're the biggest carmaker in the world for gods sake!
rumors are of twin turbo V6 in a year or two... all these engines coming out now probably started development 3-4 years ago.

But in any case, being european with high CO2 taxes, i could care less about turbo petrols anymore... just give us cheaper V6 Hybrids I guess :-).
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Overall capabilities yes, but resources are stretched thin at Toyota right now, especially in powertrains where every single vehicle group is asking for an update. Toyota has fallen a bit behind in terms of rolling out direct injection to the Toyota side, revamping the Lexus side, expanding adoption of 8-speed automatics, the whole fuel cell group, hybrids for the next gen Prius and beyond, etc.

There's a lot of work that goes into the development of a new technology, and then the amount of tuning for each specific application. Toyota is simply spread a little thin at the moment.
who's fault is that? Last bread and butter engine debuted around 2006, which meant development in early 2000s.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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<Toyota has shatloads of money... Not an issue, just priorities, managed growth, etc.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
who's fault is that? Last bread and butter engine debuted around 2006, which meant development in early 2000s.
what is bread and butter, V6? Otherwise thats just not true... And yes, engine family runs for at least 10 years. What we are talking about is that they did not want to follow turbo trend until many countries made engine displacement and CO2 based taxes.

Anways, they already started with new engine introductions this year, small 4cly and V8 so far.. 18 engines to be all-new by 2016 according to them.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
<Toyota has shatloads of money... Not an issue, just priorities, managed growth, etc.
True. Capital of Toyota already exceed multiple countries combined. Money isn't a problem when it come to update engine for their future product. They probably have plan in place, but it's not the time to act on Lexus 3.5L replacement yet.
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cino
True. Capital of Toyota already exceed multiple countries combined. Money isn't a problem when it come to update engine for their future product. They probably have plan in place, but it's not the time to act on Lexus 3.5L replacement yet.
we kind of already know that 3.5l is going to get same updates as V8 in RC-F.... so it will have over 300hp in RX, have D4S, atkinson cycle, etc, etc. Basically what they call all new engine from their presentation half a year ago.

That rumored turbo V6 is likely going to to sport sedans like IS and GS.
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rayaans
Its not like they havent got funding to make a 300t. They're the biggest carmaker in the world for gods sake!
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
<Toyota has shatloads of money... Not an issue, just priorities, managed growth, etc.
Originally Posted by cino
True. Capital of Toyota already exceed multiple countries combined. Money isn't a problem when it come to update engine for their future product. They probably have plan in place, but it's not the time to act on Lexus 3.5L replacement yet.
As of March 31, 2014 Toyota had over $19.8 Billion just in Cash and Cash Equivalents. So yes...Toyota has tons of money...Short Term Investments of $21.6 Billion...

Toyota is worth over $193 Billion...well over GM, Ford and Chrysler combined and then some!!!
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