New Prius? (pix)
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So I guess the question is - will Toyota work the EPA results so they get fake rating too?
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I remember when GM advertised their 4 cylinder, FWD Terrain as getting 33 hwy mpg, an obvious lie. They still claim it achieves 32 hwy mpg, still a laughable lie for a 4,000 pound, boxy SUV. It seems certain domestic models are allowed false EPA ratings.
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So now Ford is gaining sales, it has better CAFE numbers but some customers are complaining, not enough for now to influence their sales.
In fact, one of the guys that had 2010 Fusion Hybrid and now has 2013, says that his 2010 constantly gets better mpg over the same routes (new one should get 10 MPG better).
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+1 on the center stack design. That design gives absolutely no benefits to the driver (only allowing the manufacturer a few parts that can be shared between LHD and RHD markets) but is an unbelievably bad idea and serves to block many potential buyers from choosing the car. Mini does the same thing, although adhering to tradition is their reason. I would never buy a car with a center mounted instrument panel.
As for the picture, I'd like to see the front. From the spy pics I've seen, the front is supposed to look a lot more athletic.
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You'd have to have the steering wheel at an extreme angle to block anything.
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yeah, it is interesting... all these Ford hybrids getting 47 MPG combined actually get 36-39 max in real life, slightly less than Toyota Hybrids that should get 40 MPG EPA.
So now Ford is gaining sales, it has better CAFE numbers but some customers are complaining, not enough for now to influence their sales.
In fact, one of the guys that had 2010 Fusion Hybrid and now has 2013, says that his 2010 constantly gets better mpg over the same routes (new one should get 10 MPG better).
So now Ford is gaining sales, it has better CAFE numbers but some customers are complaining, not enough for now to influence their sales.
In fact, one of the guys that had 2010 Fusion Hybrid and now has 2013, says that his 2010 constantly gets better mpg over the same routes (new one should get 10 MPG better).
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