EthanV

Honda 2.4 185 horse power at 7k RPM 162 lbs torque 5 Speeds MPG 23/31
RAV 4 176 horse power at 6k RPM 172lbs torque 6 Speeds MPG 24/31

Is honda a little faster since it advance on the horsepower and RPM. I understand they are almost the same but due to the toyota advance on 6 speeds and a little more torque?

Hoovey689

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I like the toyota 2.5 I4 (which actually has 179hp), and more torque which I like

spwolf

best is you try the both and let us know :-)

unless we had real torque curves from the dyno, it is hard to say. So far everyone has been writing how 2.5l in Rav4 with 6 speed is very good.

PhilipMSPT

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I think the difference is insignificant. I would be more concerned about weight and driving dynamics. The extra cog on the Rav will surely be noticeable when driving in hills/mountains, or with full capacity loads.

One note: CRV has its 4-banger. Rav4 has its 4-banger and EV electric engines; and the purported hybrid coming soon. We'll see how this will all pan out when it comes to sales figures...

Joeb427

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I'd still go new CR-V....again.

mmarshall

I've driven both, and the 2012 RAV-4's engine/drivetrain (with the automatic) feels significantly smoother (haven't sampled the all-new 2013 yet). The 2012 model, though, had a dated 4-speed automatic.

The CR-V, though, IMO, has other advantages. I think its overall quality-level and build-solidness (especially the interior) is better than the RAV-4's. A number of things on the RAV-4 feel cheap in comparison.

TripleL

I don't have a specific technical answer to your horsepower/torque question other than I did compare these two vehicles about 10 months ago in the process of purchasing a new car for my wife and I can tell you that engine/drive-train on these two were both good and known to be very reliable. So much so that drive-train was not part of our decisioning process for these two.

With this in mind I'd focus in other aspects of the two and see what fits your needs/wants best. Definitely check out the new RAV4 when comparing and let us know what you think after you drive them.

spwolf

why are you talking about 2012 Rav4 in 2013 thread? it makes no sense to talk about 4 speed and interior when those are biggest improvements in 2013.

Actually, it would be best if you did the review :-). And let us know how it is.... it should be at dealers now.

Sulu

I have driven the 2012 CR-V, and the 2010 RAV4 and 2011 Camry. The RAV4 and Camry have the same 2.5-litre engine. I found the Toyota engine to be much more refined -- much smoother and quieter -- than the Honda engine.

Aron9000

Go test drive a v6 Rav4. Granted fuel economy is a little worse at 19 city/27 highway for a 2wd, but that's still pretty damn respectable IMO. You really won't give a damn once you put your foot down in a v6 rav4. Its REALLY DAMN QUICK for a cheaper suv, we're talking 260hp, mid 14 second quarter mile et's here. The 4 cylinders in the CRV and Rav4 are dogs IMO, especially once you load one of these things up with 3 people and luggage for a trip. The v6 model won't even notice that you have an additonal 700-1000lbs aboard.

Hoovey689

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269, cause I like to get specific

Aron9000

Yeah, 269hp of pure fun. The 2GR-FE has to be the best naturally aspirated v6 engine on the market. This despite its "old school" port fuel injection and hasn't been changed since its 2006 debut.

In addition to its madhouse power(IMO 269hp is under-rated), its silky smooth, extremely quiet, and gets great gas mileage considering its more powerful than any other v6 and most small v8's. Really that engine is the sole reason I'd buy a Rav4, even though I think the competition has a serious one up on the dash design.

Joeb427

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When deciding between a RAV4 Sport V6 and CR-V EX-NAV,the RAV's V6 made it a tough decision between the two.We did choose the CR-V but wouldn't have looked at the RAV if not for the V6.The 3.5L gets very good MPGs too.
My wife had a '06 RAV 4 cyl for 3 years.I felt the 4 cyl was weak for the RAV.
The CR-V is a slug too but the handling,interior was so much better.

LexFather

I think they are pretty even and basically it boils down to badge.

mmarshall

True that I had not yet sampled a 2013, but I felt that my experience with the 2012 (I had done a full-review) was better than nothing, and the 2013 will probably have the same four-cylinder. I'll see a couple of 2013s in a few more days at the D.C. Auto Show....and can do a quick static-review there.

OK...I'll maybe do a full test-drive after the show (the show starts Friday and ends Feb. 10). Toyota, GM, and Kia typically have a small test-drive circuit set up in the city-streets for the public during the show, but IMO it is not enough (or varied enough) for a true test of driving-characteristics.