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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
smh....

Mid Size class

5 series-8,385
E class-6,984
GS-2,796
A6-1,875
MKS-1,350
M-849
RL-18 -

So basically the top 3 made huge gains and everyone else was flat or down.

I was curious about the LS since the December to Remember event DID NOT include incentives for the 2013 LS.

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7 series-1,422
LS-1,286
S class-1,110
A8-900
Equus-350

LS had a solid month and Hyundai has to be super happy with the 300-350 the Equus captures every month. A8 had a really big month
Well put. Interesting to see how much of a gap the top three widened between themselves and the rest of the pack. GS sales dramatically increased while A6 sales were pretty much flat. That to me shows how well the GS is doing.

Now yes incentives helped, but the key fact remains that the 4GS is a GREAT car in almost every measure. A mediocre car, even with incentives, would not sell very well.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Well put. Interesting to see how much of a gap the top three widened between themselves and the rest of the pack. GS sales dramatically increased while A6 sales were pretty much flat. That to me shows how well the GS is doing.

Now yes incentives helped, but the key fact remains that the 4GS is a GREAT car in almost every measure. A mediocre car, even with incentives, would not sell very well.
I agree with your point, and the GS deserves every single sale it gets and then some, the last part isn't necessarily true. GM sold an *** load of vehicles like the Cavalier and Blazer that rolled off the line with cash on the hood.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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281,460 / 12 = 23,455
274,134 / 12 = 22,844
247,166 / 12 = 20,597

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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
Mid-Size Sedans for 2012:
1. Toyota Camry - 404,886
2. Honda Accord - 331,872
3. Nissan Altima - 302,934
4. Ford Fusion - 241,263
5. Hyundai Sonata - 230,605
6. Chevy Malibu - 210,951
7. Kia Optima - 152,399
8. Chrysler 200 - 125,476
9. Volkswagen Passat - 117,023
10. Dodge Avenger - 96,890
11. Subaru Legacy - 47,127
12. Mazda6 - 33,756

Camry takes it again!!!
i remember discussion around here how Altima or Sonata might take the crown :-)
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
i remember discussion around here how Altima or Sonata might take the crown :-)
Yeah, typical internet hate with no basis in reality.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Well put. Interesting to see how much of a gap the top three widened between themselves and the rest of the pack. GS sales dramatically increased while A6 sales were pretty much flat. That to me shows how well the GS is doing.

Now yes incentives helped, but the key fact remains that the 4GS is a GREAT car in almost every measure. A mediocre car, even with incentives, would not sell very well.
Well put.

Now Lexus needs to put more effort in spreading word about how good the 4GS really is.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy

Now yes incentives helped, but the key fact remains that the 4GS is a GREAT car in almost every measure. A mediocre car, even with incentives, would not sell very well.
I don't think you've heard of the 2012 Civic.

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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
i remember discussion around here how Altima or Sonata might take the crown :-)
however hyundai has two models, and the combined sonata/optima twins outsold the honda accord. pretty crazy.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:44 AM
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I still can't see a Genesis in the GS class.It's in the ES class to me.
No Genesis here.

Mid Size class

5 series-8,385
E class-6,984
GS-2,796
A6-1,875
MKS-1,350
M-849
RL-18 -
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
I still can't see a Genesis in the GS class.It's in the ES class to me.
No Genesis here.

Mid Size class

5 series-8,385
E class-6,984
GS-2,796
A6-1,875
MKS-1,350
M-849
RL-18 -
How so? The Genesis matches the GS spec-by-spec. They are definitely in the same class from a technical standpoint (though of course we know the GS has better refinement). The ES is also in the same "midsize luxury class" as the GS by the way, but the ES is special because it's also in the "entry luxury class" by price. The same can be said about the Genesis too.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
How so? The Genesis matches the GS spec-by-spec. They are definitely in the same class from a technical standpoint (though of course we know the GS has better refinement). The ES is also in the same "midsize luxury class" as the GS by the way, but the ES is special because it's also in the "entry luxury class" by price. The same can be said about the Genesis too.
I just don't feel the Genesis is in the same class as a GS.It's not a sport luxury vehicle like a GS.Except for the R Spec.It's more GS to me and in the same price range.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
I just don't feel the Genesis is in the same class as a GS.It's not a sport luxury vehicle like a GS.Except for the R Spec.It's more GS to me and in the same price range.
Well no one says "midsize luxury" automatically requires "sport" in the equation. The 2GS in particular felt pretty unsporty too in stock form.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
Well no one says "midsize luxury" automatically requires "sport" in the equation. The 2GS in particular felt pretty unsporty too in stock form.
That's why the Genesis is like a ES to me.It's not sporty and not meant to be just like the ES.It's a 4 door family style sedan.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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who the hell is buying so many F series trucks and silverados? lol
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
Well no one says "midsize luxury" automatically requires "sport" in the equation. The 2GS in particular felt pretty unsporty too in stock form.
THIS IS completely INACCURATE. When the 2GS came and out won multiple awards it was b/c it drove sporty and like a coupe. At the time the only sportier sedan was the E39 5 series. A number of us had a 2GS when it was the "bad boy Lexus" so please don't dare re-write history about it. For its time period, the GS was as good as a sports sedan as you could buy.
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