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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vladi
If new Prius doesn't have EV autonomy I see no point of it as future of hybrids is EV autonomy or should I say PHEV. Their first PHEV attempt ended up being probably the worst PHEV vehicle on the market so they have space to improve.
JDM mags said 20-25 mile range for PHEV, not sure how true that is. That would be the double of current one.

But you have to keep this in mind - worldwide, PHEV sales are really low. So PHEV model matters really very little despite PR we see in the mags. Only countries where there are big PHEV sales are the ones that also have huge tax breaks on phevs.
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Sounds like they are going to sex it up.
just like they sex'd up the Camry and Corolla?

I did read they will supposedly make it sportier...I'll believe it when I see it.
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
just like they sex'd up the Camry and Corolla?

I did read they will supposedly make it sportier...I'll believe it when I see it.
this is based on all-new platform with lower center of gravity... sporty drive was one of their goals when they designed new platform TNGA and invested billions into it.

So yeah, it will certainly drive nicer than before, although I am sure it will not have much feel, like all Prii so far.... it is part of the charm.
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
this is based on all-new platform with lower center of gravity... sporty drive was one of their goals when they designed new platform TNGA and invested billions into it.

So yeah, it will certainly drive nicer than before, although I am sure it will not have much feel, like all Prii so far.... it is part of the charm.
Feel is essential, no feel no care.
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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FWIW:

Toyota's 4th Gen Prius Revealed (Obviously a bait-link title. I would say it's more like someone's educated sketches)


Google Translated Version
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 10:00 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:33 AM
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^^^

The taillights don't even match!
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
^^^

The taillights don't even match!

Yeah, they do.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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that pic is Prius PHEV which has crazy looks... regular Prius looks less crazy (difference in bumpers and lights). I saw it in JDM mag i mentioned before, gotta find it again.
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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Here is the normal Prius, from the same article... i saw same pics in JDM mag, Autonet probably copied the article.
So blue is normal Prius, green is PHEV.

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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 05:22 PM
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Interesting parts from the article:
- 1280kg weight, which is less than before by at least 85kg.
- e-four system like in NX for AWD
- increased power for primary motor - 90hp from 67hp. Means more energy recovered.
- overall system power between 145-150hp... petrol engine 6hp stronger, rest would be 8hp for increased battery output which makes sense.
- slightly larger than before, so more space.
- Interior similar to Mirai
- 10% better MPG

All of this was rumored before so it is pretty believable.

I like pretty much everything except for PHEV look...maybe it will look more normal in real pics.
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
Interesting parts from the article:
- 1280kg weight, which is less than before by at least 85kg.
- e-four system like in NX for AWD
- increased power for primary motor - 90hp from 67hp. Means more energy recovered.
- overall system power between 145-150hp... petrol engine 6hp stronger, rest would be 8hp for increased battery output which makes sense.
- slightly larger than before, so more space.
- Interior similar to Mirai
- 10% better MPG

All of this was rumored before so it is pretty believable.

I like pretty much everything except for PHEV look...maybe it will look more normal in real pics.
Took them long enough. Caters to the ever popular AWD market $_$

So when should we expect the CT to get more powerful and more effiicent, MY17?
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Took them long enough. Caters to the ever popular AWD market $_$

So when should we expect the CT to get more powerful and more effiicent, MY17?
CT with more than 200hp AWD, and I'm switching to Lexus again from Subaru. (unless they bring Levorg STI)
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cino
CT with more than 200hp AWD, and I'm switching to Lexus again from Subaru. (unless they bring Levorg STI)
I like that idea

If they could ever shoehorn the 2.5 into the CT i'm confident with less weight it could be far more potent while still delivering great mpg from a stronger and less strained powertrain

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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
Here is the normal Prius, from the same article... i saw same pics in JDM mag, Autonet probably copied the article.
So blue is normal Prius, green is PHEV.

From the badges on the side it seems like the other way round. Not sure, but the blue one seems to have a bigger badge doesn't it?
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