MT-1. VW Passat. 2. Toyota Camry. 3. Hyundai Sonanta NOW PART 3 Page 4
10-31-11, 07:13 PM
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Motortrend Camry SE V6, VS. Passat SEL VR6 & Sonata SE 2.0t
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...el_comparison/
The third part to the MT Camry vs. Sonata vs. Passat road test and surprise surprise (not), the Camry gets snubbed again to the Passat.
The third part to the MT Camry vs. Sonata vs. Passat road test and surprise surprise (not), the Camry gets snubbed again to the Passat.
10-31-11, 07:39 PM
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Unfortunately for the Sonata, it was the only one that wasn't quicker than the aforementioned M5 and 500E. In fact, at 7.0 seconds to 60 and 15.4 at 91.5 mph to the quarter mile, the 2.0T barely edged the 200-horse Camry Hybrid. When comparing high-performance variants, being last is never a positive, especially when it's last by a lot. And the subpar performance wasn't just in straight-line stats; in all objective handling tests, the Sonata rose to the top in none. Hyundai eschewed a V-6 in favor of a turbo I-4, citing comparable power, less weight, and improved fuel economy. Acceleration was the slowest, and observed fuel economy nearly tied for last. And the 2.0T was indeed the lightest car of the three, but only by 35 pounds compared with the Camry.
10-31-11, 11:39 PM
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11-01-11, 12:48 AM
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Just about everything. Those era Passats were electrical day and nightmares, amongst many other things. The W8 also made the car nose heavy and less of a handler.
11-01-11, 09:49 AM
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The ride, while not as compliant as the Passat's, was quiet and comfortable, if a bit too busy for our tastes.
(Camry)
The suspension boasts 15-percent-stiffer springs and shocks. But while the SE gripped for a respectable 0.81 g and lived up to its sporty badge, we do wish those springs and shocks were about 10 percent softer. As they are, the Camry's ride suffers, relaying just about every bump in the road.
The suspension boasts 15-percent-stiffer springs and shocks. But while the SE gripped for a respectable 0.81 g and lived up to its sporty badge, we do wish those springs and shocks were about 10 percent softer. As they are, the Camry's ride suffers, relaying just about every bump in the road.
When even the auto press, who worship at the altar of handling, start to complain about the ride-quality in today's cars (even family-sedans), and the over-emphasis on stiffness, THAT tells you something.
This is what I myself have been saying for about the last 5 years or so.
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11-01-11, 10:14 AM
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When even the auto press, who worship at the altar of handling, start to complain about the ride-quality in today's cars (even family-sedans), and the over-emphasis on stiffness, THAT tells you something.
This is what I myself have been saying for about the last 5 years or so.
This is what I myself have been saying for about the last 5 years or so.
Even though it might placate the automotive press and make for good marketing speak, family cars aren't driven at 10/10ths gonig through the normal daily routines.
11-01-11, 12:38 PM
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When even the auto press, who worship at the altar of handling, start to complain about the ride-quality in today's cars (even family-sedans), and the over-emphasis on stiffness, THAT tells you something.
This is what I myself have been saying for about the last 5 years or so.
This is what I myself have been saying for about the last 5 years or so.
11-01-11, 12:50 PM
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the new camry has some seriously engineering.
it has least amount of HP and torque, but matching the acceleration of Passet while delivering superior fuel efficiency. i like it.
by the way, those test result should silence those ignorance red necks about "HP moves cars, torque wins race" take a look at Sonata 2.0T (3335 lb) that has 274HP @6000 rpm and 269 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm, compare with Camry (3370 lb) that has 268 hp @ 6200 rpm and 248 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm. if "torque wins race" hold any truth, then Sonata should smoke Camry to oblivion. it is lighter in weight, a lot more in torque at a lot lower rpm, and guess what.. Camry smoke Sonata from start to finish, it is NOT EVEN comparable. quarter mile: 15.4 sec @ 91.5 mph vs 14.2 sec @ 100.6 mph.
lastly, the VW come with the base price of 33.7k. that is 6.3k more than the base price for Camry V6, or about 23% more expensive (granted, it may be better equipped), but at 34k, i will not buy a vw passet.
it has least amount of HP and torque, but matching the acceleration of Passet while delivering superior fuel efficiency. i like it.
by the way, those test result should silence those ignorance red necks about "HP moves cars, torque wins race" take a look at Sonata 2.0T (3335 lb) that has 274HP @6000 rpm and 269 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm, compare with Camry (3370 lb) that has 268 hp @ 6200 rpm and 248 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm. if "torque wins race" hold any truth, then Sonata should smoke Camry to oblivion. it is lighter in weight, a lot more in torque at a lot lower rpm, and guess what.. Camry smoke Sonata from start to finish, it is NOT EVEN comparable. quarter mile: 15.4 sec @ 91.5 mph vs 14.2 sec @ 100.6 mph.
lastly, the VW come with the base price of 33.7k. that is 6.3k more than the base price for Camry V6, or about 23% more expensive (granted, it may be better equipped), but at 34k, i will not buy a vw passet.
11-01-11, 01:17 PM
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the new camry has some seriously engineering.
it has least amount of HP and torque, but matching the acceleration of Passet while delivering superior fuel efficiency. i like it.
by the way, those test result should silence those ignorance red necks about "HP moves cars, torque wins race" take a look at Sonata 2.0T (3335 lb) that has 274HP @6000 rpm and 269 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm, compare with Camry (3370 lb) that has 268 hp @ 6200 rpm and 248 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm. if "torque wins race" hold any truth, then Sonata should smoke Camry to oblivion. it is lighter in weight, a lot more in torque at a lot lower rpm, and guess what.. Camry smoke Sonata from start to finish, it is NOT EVEN comparable. quarter mile: 15.4 sec @ 91.5 mph vs 14.2 sec @ 100.6 mph.
lastly, the VW come with the base price of 33.7k. that is 6.3k more than the base price for Camry V6, or about 23% more expensive (granted, it may be better equipped), but at 34k, i will not buy a vw passet.
it has least amount of HP and torque, but matching the acceleration of Passet while delivering superior fuel efficiency. i like it.
by the way, those test result should silence those ignorance red necks about "HP moves cars, torque wins race" take a look at Sonata 2.0T (3335 lb) that has 274HP @6000 rpm and 269 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm, compare with Camry (3370 lb) that has 268 hp @ 6200 rpm and 248 lb-ft @ 4700 rpm. if "torque wins race" hold any truth, then Sonata should smoke Camry to oblivion. it is lighter in weight, a lot more in torque at a lot lower rpm, and guess what.. Camry smoke Sonata from start to finish, it is NOT EVEN comparable. quarter mile: 15.4 sec @ 91.5 mph vs 14.2 sec @ 100.6 mph.
lastly, the VW come with the base price of 33.7k. that is 6.3k more than the base price for Camry V6, or about 23% more expensive (granted, it may be better equipped), but at 34k, i will not buy a vw passet.
11-01-11, 09:51 PM
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In general, IMO, BMW products have the best-combinaton of steering/handling/ride-comfort ...they seem to be able to keep the most in handling while sacrificing the least in ride-comfort. Surprisingly, the new Buick Lacrosse also has an outstanding combination.