Lexus LF-Gh Concept (updated, pics posted)
#453
Lexus Champion
Look at the best sellers in the class...the 5 series and E class...neither of those could ever be called "ground breaking", "edgy" or "game changing". Buyers in this class want understated luxury. Even though I've wished for a super aggressive F10 M5 or GS F...the reality is that it will never happen as that isn't what really sells.
Aftermarket to the rescue.
#454
Lexus Fanatic
i know. just sayin.
my emotions have been changed by the FRS.
at first, I wanted to see a hot (not necessarily ground breaking) 4GS, but I'm starting to have my doubts.
then they pull out the FRS, and now I don't think I even want to spend $50k anymore.
but we won't know till next year.
Maybe the FRS production will turn out to be a disappointment, and the GS will be awesome.
you never know with toyota....
#456
Design Exercise
Lexus has just lost the title for the top luxury automaker in 2011 in the United States after being the leader for 11 years, but the head of Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus division isn't worried.
According to Detroit News, the Japanese automaker expects to lose some market shares this year due to components supply shortages from Japan as a consequence to the March 11 earthquake.
"I've told people for the 11 years that we have been No. 1 that it's not what we set out to do," Lexus general manager Mark Templin told The Detroit News after an event to unveil a concept Lexus hybrid - the LF-Gh.
"It's not what we're about now. We're all about the best quality cars," he added.
In the first three months of 2011, the Japanese automaker lost some positions in favor of Mercedes Benz and BMW. In addition, the sales levels were down 4% in the first quarter.
Due to new fuel efficiency regulations, the luxury segment in the States has changed and continues to change as Templin explains.
"Some of our competitors don't have the might and power of a Toyota behind them," he said. "They have to sell smaller, less expensive cars that get better mpg and get more volume out of it to meet their government regulations," he added.
By 2016, automakers are forced to increase their car’s fuel efficiency by 30% in order to meet the new regulations that require a 34.1 mpg (6.89 L/100 km) level.
Lexus is not obliged to build fuel-efficient models in order to meet the new terms.
“We don't plan to that," Templin said. "We can stick to true luxury cars and that's what we intend to do... It's not just about volume," he concluded.
The Lexus Future Grand Touring hybrid represents just a new face for Lexus according to Templin. He explained that Lexus does not intend to sell the LF-Gh model, considering it just a design exercise.
"But I promise you a lot of what you see will come to see in this car will come to future Lexus products,” Templin reports, saying it would "not be too long."
#460
Pole Position
The more I see the pix, the more I love it ('cept that grille). I especially love the badgeless rear of the car. And I like the slab, unadorned side profile. And I like the hood and headlights. A toned-down split grille is my only preference.
And one my only concerns is that the car looks kinda large. When I see it in person, I may wish it to be a tad smaller.
Other than that, I love it. I can't wait!
So glad it's not an aggressive design, I like the understated, evolved approach to the GS.
And one my only concerns is that the car looks kinda large. When I see it in person, I may wish it to be a tad smaller.
Other than that, I love it. I can't wait!
So glad it's not an aggressive design, I like the understated, evolved approach to the GS.
#463
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Pic from NYC AutoShow of LF-G
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The more I see the pix, the more I love it ('cept that grille). I especially love the badgeless rear of the car. And I like the slab, unadorned side profile. And I like the hood and headlights. A toned-down split grille is my only preference.
And one my only concerns is that the car looks kinda large. When I see it in person, I may wish it to be a tad smaller.
Other than that, I love it. I can't wait!
So glad it's not an aggressive design, I like the understated, evolved approach to the GS.
And one my only concerns is that the car looks kinda large. When I see it in person, I may wish it to be a tad smaller.
Other than that, I love it. I can't wait!
So glad it's not an aggressive design, I like the understated, evolved approach to the GS.
The 1GS was actually 194 inches long. This concept is around 192 inches long+ with the same wheelbase as the 3GS.
2 inches might not seem like a big deal to people but it can be. I like the size of the GS, I don't desire a mid-size growing to LS size proportions.
#464
Pole Position
You know Kevin the media and people are full of crap. They constantly complain cars are getting bigger and heavier all the time. The 3GS is not even an inch longer than the 2GS and is barely wider, taller but the wheelbase grew. The weight held to around 3800 lbs. INstead of it being commended for going against trends (ever car in this class got much bigger, 192-194 inches long AND heavier) its "cramped" yadda yadda. No mention of its lower weight than most in this class.
The 1GS was actually 194 inches long. This concept is around 192 inches long+ with the same wheelbase as the 3GS.
2 inches might not seem like a big deal to people but it can be. I like the size of the GS, I don't desire a mid-size growing to LS size proportions.
The 1GS was actually 194 inches long. This concept is around 192 inches long+ with the same wheelbase as the 3GS.
2 inches might not seem like a big deal to people but it can be. I like the size of the GS, I don't desire a mid-size growing to LS size proportions.
So if the LF-Gh looks too big to my naked eye, that will be a turnoff. I still need something that can be somewhat nimble on its feet, as well as squeeze into tight areas, because, well, you know how I drive. lol
#465
Lexus Connoisseur
Thread Starter
Yeah, I just hope in person the car looks "mid-sized". Having said that, I don't think the 2GS nor the 3GS have roomy backseats, both short on leg room, IMO. Camry's have roomier backseats, and that's a shame. So, I can understand Lexus trying to grow the GS a tad to at least fit 4 comfortably, like a sporty mid-size executive sedan should. I'm still at least 10 to 15 years away from driving something as big as an LS though. It has great presence when properly modded, but for my preference, it's just too big.
So if the LF-Gh looks too big to my naked eye, that will be a turnoff. I still need something that can be somewhat nimble on its feet, as well as squeeze into tight areas, because, well, you know how I drive. lol
So if the LF-Gh looks too big to my naked eye, that will be a turnoff. I still need something that can be somewhat nimble on its feet, as well as squeeze into tight areas, because, well, you know how I drive. lol