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and personally, after seeing the new 5 series, bangle designs is actually pretty nice
Out of these cars, which one is more reliable.......um, will give me the less headache..........or less trip to the shop???
I would like to know
tough question. and the funny thing is, i know quite a few m5 and e55 owners (only 2 e63 owners), and "surprisingly", none of them have big problems with their cars at all. and they do drive their cars. even my m3 i haven't had much issues with it and it's been almost 2 yrs. my feeling is the m and amg cars are better built overall.
but if i have to say, the supercharger on the e55 can always be a time bomb, it's just one more thing to go wrong.
tough question. and the funny thing is, i know quite a few m5 and e55 owners (only 2 e63 owners), and "surprisingly", none of them have big problems with their cars at all. and they do drive their cars. even my m3 i haven't had much issues with it and it's been almost 2 yrs. my feeling is the m and amg cars are better built overall.
but if i have to say, the supercharger on the e55 can always be a time bomb, it's just one more thing to go wrong.
Thanks Henry.
re: M5, that's good to hear
I don't worry about their engine/tranny.
We all know german's electrical is not their best attribute (esp. in the past)
if i had to get one myself, it'd be the e63. luxury, performance, and it doesn't really age in terms of exterior. even the e55 doesn't age. refined and elegant fron gen to gen.
My business partner had an E60, blue with cream interior, that was a total beast. That being said, I'd rather save the extra pennies for the new F10. If all the hype and speculation is true, it is going to be a segment game changer.
I love the E60 M5's looks, but it's negatives are too much for me to ignore:
1) SMG transmission is very rough and slow IMO even in S6
2) They need 1 liter of oil about every 1000 miles
3) Many occurrences of a "cog of death" transmission problem on 2006 models
4) Most owners only get about 200 miles out of a full tank (10-12mpg)
I love the E60 M5's looks, but it's negatives are too much for me to ignore:
1) SMG transmission is very rough and slow IMO even in S6
2) They need 1 liter of oil about every 1000 miles
3) Many occurrences of a "cog of death" transmission problem on 2006 models
4) Most owners only get about 200 miles out of a full tank (10-12mpg)
I voted for the E63.
lol wait till you see the gas mileage on the e63, which is not any better at all
and for the oil, it depends on your driving. if you drive like a mad man and shift at 7000rpm all the time, then yup, very often. otherwise, adding 1/2 liter every 3000 miles seem to be normal from what i hear
Thanks Henry.
re: M5, that's good to hear
I don't worry about their engine/tranny.
We all know german's electrical is not their best attribute (esp. in the past)
hahha yup, electronics. i find it really hit and miss. but i guess overall over 80k miles, i start to carry the "worry" word around.
trust me, i spent enough time looking at e60 m5 and w211 e55 the past 2 months when i was this close from getting rid of my gs350. of course, we decided to keep the gs350, but man, the prices of the m5 and e55 are so attractive.
even more interesting? depreciation on mb is just plainly horrible. if you look at same year m5 vs e55/63 (06+), you will see that mb are always like 10k cheaper. the gap is huge. i can't seem to understand why
Originally Posted by CDNROCKIES
None of the above.
My business partner had an E60, blue with cream interior, that was a total beast. That being said, I'd rather save the extra pennies for the new F10. If all the hype and speculation is true, it is going to be a segment game changer.
i surely hope the f10 is going to be something else, and i do have hope just not sure if i will be rich enough to do ED, haha....
lol wait till you see the gas mileage on the e63, which is not any better at all
and for the oil, it depends on your driving. if you drive like a mad man and shift at 7000rpm all the time, then yup, very often. otherwise, adding 1/2 liter every 3000 miles seem to be normal from what i hear
Gas mileage may be similar, but fueleconomy.gov says the E63 gets 285 miles per tank vs M5's 216. It's not so much the fuel efficiency as much as the inconvenience of filling up that often.
Last edited by PhantomZX; Oct 21, 2010 at 01:36 PM.
Gas mileage may be similar, but fueleconomy.gov says the E63 gets 285 miles per tank vs M5's 216. It's not so much the fuel efficiency as much as the inconvenience of filling up that often.
ah, i see your point on that. e class has noticeably larger gas tank (i think like 2g more?), so you can definitely go further
Gas mileage may be similar, but fueleconomy.gov says the E63 gets 285 miles per tank vs M5's 216. It's not so much the fuel efficiency as much as the inconvenience of filling up that often.
285? That would be nice. I usually have to fill-up around the 220 mark.
hahha yup, electronics. i find it really hit and miss. but i guess overall over 80k miles, i start to carry the "worry" word around.
trust me, i spent enough time looking at e60 m5 and w211 e55 the past 2 months when i was this close from getting rid of my gs350. of course, we decided to keep the gs350, but man, the prices of the m5 and e55 are so attractive.
even more interesting? depreciation on mb is just plainly horrible. if you look at same year m5 vs e55/63 (06+), you will see that mb are always like 10k cheaper. the gap is huge. i can't seem to understand why
wait, what? I thought you sold your GS
good call on keeping it
this will allow you to get a headache monster then
well, thanks for doing some of the footwork
the lists that phantom posted aren't that bad at all-considering it could be worse