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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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@encore888, I have to echo everyone and say that was a great posts

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
You know we always talk about a possible AWD ES or ESh but again, what about an ES coupe?

I think there would be a market for a big, plush Lexus ES coupe.
It's funny I was just at the dealership and I heard something about a GS Coupe. Likely the typical dealership banter and rumormilling, but I like the idea of a GS Coupe.

An ES Coupe? Not so much. That would pretty much be an overpriced Solara and we see where the Solara ended up...

Another thing is that an ES Coupe would be priced at about the same as the proverbial IS Coupe and most people (especially those in mid life crisis), would probably jump for the IS over ES.

I think another ES speculation that sounds pretty cool is positioning it as a dedicated hybrid model. Bigger and more powerful than the HS with a V6, quite ride and crazy MPGs. I'm not sure if the traditional ES buyer would like that though.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Here is one simple thought on the ES.

The ES does well because it is a rebadged Camry.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by (Cj)
If Lexus adds an ESh to the model line, then including the CT, Lexus would have 6 hybrids.
It appears Lexus has more hybrid models than Toyota in the U.S.

Lexus hybrids:

HS 250h
GS 450h
LS 600h L
RX 450h
CT 250h (coming soon)

Toyota hybrids:

Prius
Camry hybrid
Highlander hybrid

Estima hybrid (Japan)
Crown hybrid (Japan)
Harrier hybrid (Japan)
Sai hybrid (Japan)
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
It appears Lexus has more hybrid models than Toyota in the U.S.

Lexus hybrids:

HS 250h
GS 450h
LS 600h L
RX 450h
CT 250h (coming soon)

Toyota hybrids:

Prius
Camry hybrid
Highlander hybrid

Estima hybrid (Japan)
Crown hybrid (Japan)
Harrier hybrid (Japan)
Sai hybrid (Japan)
Don't forget Toyota's got the FT-Ch, coming too as well as the oft-rumored Prius MPV type vehicle. In fact there's gonna be a whole line of Prius branded dedicated hybrids, so soon it'll all even out.

Going forward Lexus will have an even split of vehicles in the F and h marques. Toyota will be adding plug-in hybrid and full electric vehicles which will differentiate them from Lexus.
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