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Old 03-22-10, 06:07 PM
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I definitely like the sound sound of this.
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Originally Posted by Och
Are you sure? The regular 3 series is double wishbone, right?

Many people often confuse strut setup, in which spring is mounted over the shock but the whole assembly only its direct purpose, with MacPerson strut, where the strut assembly also serves the purpose of the upper control arm, which it replaces.

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Will try to find pictures of the E46 and E9x
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Old 03-22-10, 09:54 PM
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Interesting... Isn't MacPerson strut type of suspension often criticized for poor handling, something BMW's are never associated with?
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It's neither good or bad, just different. BMW showed us how they can make it work well on their cars. I believe the 5-series uses double wishbone, and it handles equally as well. It's all about balance.
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Old 03-23-10, 04:44 AM
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Shooting brake? Wouldn't that be a disaster in today's market?
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Old 03-23-10, 06:08 AM
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I'd rather have the AWD S4, but this likely a good move for BMW...at least from the viewpoint of someone who enjoys turbochargers.
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Old 03-23-10, 01:45 PM
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If they really do go with the Turbos, it's going to be a monster. I can't wait to see ECU tunes on this thing.
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Old 03-23-10, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by primecut
If they really do go with the Turbos, it's going to be a monster. I can't wait to see ECU tunes on this thing.
There are rumors that bmw will record tunes and void warranties on future bmws. they learned their lesson after the fiasco with the 335's and i don't think anybody wants to own a bimmer without warranty.
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Originally Posted by GTSLEX
There are rumors that bmw will record tunes and void warranties on future bmws. they learned their lesson after the fiasco with the 335's and i don't think anybody wants to own a bimmer without warranty.
lol, there is a will, there is a way. just like the current 335 (even after all the bmw firmware update and tracking), i think companies will find a way to defeat all the "recording" by bmw
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i'm kinda partial to inline engines but i'm kinda glad the M3 will be going back to the I6.

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I believe MacPhersons are an inherently inferior design vs a double A / wishbone but BMW has tuned the crap out of the MacPherson design for the 3 series (at least the older ones).

I concur that the inline 6 is bread and butter engine for BMW but not with turbos. Naturally aspirated and good breathing is what made the old M3 special. Also BMW does not have a ton of experience in turbo-charged engines (HPFP and its issues) so I would not buy a 1st year model

I hope the new M3 is not a 60-70K car but I am not holding my breath. Lighter, simpler with less iDrive

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Old 03-24-10, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by werewolf
I hope the new M3 is not a 60-70K car but I am not holding my breath. Lighter, simpler with less iDrive
Have you looked at pricing lately? It already is a $60-70k car...
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Old 03-24-10, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GTSLEX
There are rumors that bmw will record tunes and void warranties on future bmws. they learned their lesson after the fiasco with the 335's and i don't think anybody wants to own a bimmer without warranty.
They'd better, or the CPO is going to be meaningless. Personally, I think it's atrocious behavior for any car owner to attempt to subvert warranty violation detections, especially on a leased car.
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the next m3 will continue to be 60-70 (and close to 80k for convertible) car
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Old 03-24-10, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 92 SC400
Have you looked at pricing lately? It already is a $60-70k car...
That's why I wrote it. I like the m3 but for 70k no way. BMW needs to lower the pricing
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