Where do you buy gas?
I am a relatively new owner still. Last week, I was in Miami, and filled up at a station near the Palmetto Xway. To my surprise, I got almost 35 MPG on my trip back home. I use 93 Octane, but usually buy gas from Costco since it is less expensive, and conveniently on my normal daily route. This week, I have been getting less than 25 MPG, even in hwy conditions like my Miami drive.
This makes me question gas quality. Did I get ethanol free gas in Miami? Does Costco gas really suck? Are there better grades/brands that even though they cost more money are worth it because of better mileage? I searched the forums, and I could not find this topic. Why is there ethanol in our gas now anyways?
This makes me question gas quality. Did I get ethanol free gas in Miami? Does Costco gas really suck? Are there better grades/brands that even though they cost more money are worth it because of better mileage? I searched the forums, and I could not find this topic. Why is there ethanol in our gas now anyways?
I like to test gasolines on a lot here, but best ones I've found are Chevron, Texaco, Sunoco and surprisingly Valero.
The reason that E10-E15 vehicles cannot use larger concentrations of ethanol is that it would deteriorate fuel-system components.......E85 vehicles, for instance, have different fuel-system materials than most vehicles.
Smart move. Shell and Chevron generally are, in general, currently the highest-quality gas brands, and have the most and best detergents. Chevron's Techroline, for example, has an excellent reputation, is rated by auto manufacturers as the current SAE standard in fuel detergents, and is actually used in some aftermarket, bottled, dump-in-the-tank fuel-system cleaners.
I strongly discourage the use of cut-brand gasolines, even if it saves a little on the gas bill. Though there may be some exceptions here and there, in general, those Smiling-Sam's Gas Station brands are cheaper for a reason.........they tend to skimp on good detergent and other additives, so continued use of them can quickly build up carbon, gunk, and contaminants in the engine and fuel-injectors. Fuel-injectors have very small holes in them, and it doesn't take much to plug them up or impede the fuel-flow. Then, when that happens, you just have to spend MORE money for a proper fuel-system cleaning (probably with Techroline) to get the engine back to normal.
At one time, Amoco and Mobil were consided the best gasoline brands, Mobil always had a very high detergent concentration in it, and Amoco was doing lead-free gas way back in the 1960's, long before it was actually required by catalytic converters in 1975. But, of course, in the meantime, both companies were bought out by competitors, and you don't really know what you are now getting with them.
I strongly discourage the use of cut-brand gasolines, even if it saves a little on the gas bill. Though there may be some exceptions here and there, in general, those Smiling-Sam's Gas Station brands are cheaper for a reason.........they tend to skimp on good detergent and other additives, so continued use of them can quickly build up carbon, gunk, and contaminants in the engine and fuel-injectors. Fuel-injectors have very small holes in them, and it doesn't take much to plug them up or impede the fuel-flow. Then, when that happens, you just have to spend MORE money for a proper fuel-system cleaning (probably with Techroline) to get the engine back to normal.
At one time, Amoco and Mobil were consided the best gasoline brands, Mobil always had a very high detergent concentration in it, and Amoco was doing lead-free gas way back in the 1960's, long before it was actually required by catalytic converters in 1975. But, of course, in the meantime, both companies were bought out by competitors, and you don't really know what you are now getting with them.
Last edited by mmarshall; Feb 19, 2010 at 08:42 AM.
Smart move. Shell and Chevron generally are, in general, currently the highest-quality gas brands, and have the most and best detergents. Chevron's Techroline, for example, has an excellent reputation, is rated by auto manufacturers as the current SAE standard in fuel detergents, and is actually used in some aftermarket, bottled, dump-in-the-tank fuel-system cleaners.
But sticking to any one of the Top Tier gasolines does insure decent additives and detergents. And I never waste money on injector cleanings through the entire ownership period of my vehicles.I will make no claims of being a gasoline expert. We have CL members that have worked in the industry with real knowledge and experience.
I'm might not go as far as saying smart move.
But sticking to any one of the Top Tier gasolines does insure decent additives and detergents. And I never waste money on injector cleanings through the entire ownership period of my vehicles.
I will make no claims of being a gasoline expert. We have CL members that have worked in the industry with real knowledge and experience.
But sticking to any one of the Top Tier gasolines does insure decent additives and detergents. And I never waste money on injector cleanings through the entire ownership period of my vehicles.I will make no claims of being a gasoline expert. We have CL members that have worked in the industry with real knowledge and experience.
http://www.techron.com/docs/Chevron_Techron.pdf
Gasolines with Techron were the first gasolines to be
qualified as meeting the U.S. and Canadian gasoline
performance standard known as TOP TIER
Detergent Gasoline. BMW, General Motors, Honda,
Toyota, Volkswagen and Audi believe that TOP TIER
Detergent Gasoline results in better overall
performance for their cars. Yet Chevron with
Techron goes even further, exceeding TOP TIER
standards in all three grades.
qualified as meeting the U.S. and Canadian gasoline
performance standard known as TOP TIER
Detergent Gasoline. BMW, General Motors, Honda,
Toyota, Volkswagen and Audi believe that TOP TIER
Detergent Gasoline results in better overall
performance for their cars. Yet Chevron with
Techron goes even further, exceeding TOP TIER
standards in all three grades.
I've been using both COSTCO and Sam's low octane now for years without any signs of problem.
Both Sams and COTSCO opened stores near my house when I had an Acura TL and new BMW 330i. Since then I've had a new GS 350 and just replaced it with a 2010 ES 350 two weeks ago.
Both Sams and COTSCO opened stores near my house when I had an Acura TL and new BMW 330i. Since then I've had a new GS 350 and just replaced it with a 2010 ES 350 two weeks ago.
I stopped wondering how much cheaper is one gas over others a few years ago. All I remember is that COSTCO was usually the lowest priced, followed closely by SAM's.
One thing my 7th grader grandson keeps noticing is that Shell is the most expensive of all, around here.
One thing my 7th grader grandson keeps noticing is that Shell is the most expensive of all, around here.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts too. If given the choice I'll head into a Shell or BP but others are OK too.









