View Poll Results: Slowpoke bill, do you agree?
Yes, move your slow behind over or get a ticket
36
59.02%
Yes, but its hopeless won't be enforced
17
27.87%
No, once they go the speed limit they can drive in the fast lane
4
6.56%
No, people need to slow down
1
1.64%
GA sucks
3
4.92%
I don't drive in the fast lane
0
0%
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GA; Proposed bill: Move over, slowpoke
#31
Lexus Champion
As a 20 years Atlanta resident I always drive on the far right lane because its faster. You will see 5 cars stopping on the left lane at the stop light on the 2 lanes road,but no car on the right lane....
Yes, the driver education is very poor and very annoying.
The center lane is for passing, and/or turning, and/or cruising if you don't want to deal with another idiot, so just use the center lane to avoid all of the problems...
Yes, the driver education is very poor and very annoying.
The center lane is for passing, and/or turning, and/or cruising if you don't want to deal with another idiot, so just use the center lane to avoid all of the problems...
#32
Lexus Test Driver
I was driving from Ann Arbor to Grand Rapids today and I happened upon about 20 cars hanging in the left lane...with absolutely NO cars in the right lane for about 1-2 miles on up. Needless to say, you can guess which lane I chose to drive in.
#33
Lexus Fanatic
I understand what you are saying, in principle (and there is some truth to it), but laws like that were developed in Germany, on the Autobahn, or in states like Montana where there are very high speed limits (or no limits). How well something like that would work in the U.S., where, in most places, speed limits on Interstates vary from 55 to 80 MPH, remains to be seen. I still think that once judges see that a law like this may only encourage more speeding, they may toss it out (which judges have the power to do) unless speed limits are increased correspondingly to compensate.
So, I'm not necessarily against the proposed GA law (or something like this in other states), but, if it is passed as is, it may create other problems that also have to be addressed.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-13-10 at 07:20 AM.
#34
Lexus Champion
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So then, if you want to do 20 or 25 (or more) over the limit (which, in some states, legally, is reckless driving), and a person in the left lane doing THE speed limit (or slightly above it), as the left lane was meant for, he or she is required to pull over and allow you to do so?
Not doing so often encourages aggressive behavior by the overtaking vehicle (tailgating, flashing hi-beams, etc). Best idea to get out of the way and let the highway patrol do their job.
It is not the slower driver's job to enforce traffic laws or impose their speed on the rest of traffic.
#35
Lexus Fanatic
So then, if you want to do 20 or 25 (or more) over the limit (which, in some states, legally, is reckless driving), and a person in the left lane doing THE speed limit (or slightly above it), as the left lane was meant for, he or she is required to pull over and allow you to do so?
I understand what you are saying, in principle (and there is some truth to it), but laws like that were developed in Germany, on the Autobahn, or in states like Montana where there are very high speed limits (or no limits). How well something like that would work in the U.S., where, in most places, speed limits on Interstates vary from 55 to 80 MPH, remains to be seen. I still think that once judges see that a law like this may only encourage more speeding, they may toss it out (which judges have the power to do) unless speed limits are increased correspondingly to compensate.
So, I'm not necessarily against the proposed GA law (or something like this in other states), but, if it is passed as is, it may create other problems that also have to be addressed.
I understand what you are saying, in principle (and there is some truth to it), but laws like that were developed in Germany, on the Autobahn, or in states like Montana where there are very high speed limits (or no limits). How well something like that would work in the U.S., where, in most places, speed limits on Interstates vary from 55 to 80 MPH, remains to be seen. I still think that once judges see that a law like this may only encourage more speeding, they may toss it out (which judges have the power to do) unless speed limits are increased correspondingly to compensate.
So, I'm not necessarily against the proposed GA law (or something like this in other states), but, if it is passed as is, it may create other problems that also have to be addressed.
Last edited by IS-SV; 02-13-10 at 10:38 AM. Reason: sp
#36
Lexus Fanatic
Yes, absolutely. It's defensive driving.
Not doing so often encourages aggressive behavior by the overtaking vehicle (tailgating, flashing hi-beams, etc). Best idea to get out of the way and let the highway patrol do their job.
It is not the slower driver's job to enforce traffic laws or impose their speed on the rest of traffic.
Not doing so often encourages aggressive behavior by the overtaking vehicle (tailgating, flashing hi-beams, etc). Best idea to get out of the way and let the highway patrol do their job.
It is not the slower driver's job to enforce traffic laws or impose their speed on the rest of traffic.
But you said it better "defensive driving" involves lane discipline amongst the better educated and skilled drivers.
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As a 20 years Atlanta resident I always drive on the far right lane because its faster. You will see 5 cars stopping on the left lane at the stop light on the 2 lanes road,but no car on the right lane....
Yes, the driver education is very poor and very annoying.
The center lane is for passing, and/or turning, and/or cruising if you don't want to deal with another idiot, so just use the center lane to avoid all of the problems...
Yes, the driver education is very poor and very annoying.
The center lane is for passing, and/or turning, and/or cruising if you don't want to deal with another idiot, so just use the center lane to avoid all of the problems...
I always speed on highways, I go way over the limit, but within respect to time of day and amount of traffic, speeding should be allowed, talk to anyone who enjoys driving, or someone from europe, speed does not cause accidents, it's just an easy ticket, here in the Atlanta area, their are many unsafe cars that should be pulled over and ticketed
#39
Lexus Fanatic
That's true, but it is also not the job of the speeder to blame those driving the speed limit (even in the left lane) for the fact that the state HAS speed limits.
Like I said (and I've repeated it several times), the fact remains that if a law like this is going to be passed, speed limits will HAVE to be raised to allow for faster speeds in the left lane. If they are NOT raised, the bill could be declared unconstitutional by the court system.
#40
Lexus Fanatic
Exactly the point. So often "Johnny come lately/wannabe a cop when he grow up" thinks he knows what the correct amount to speed is like 5-10 mph over the limit, but it's really more simple than that, just move over when safe to do so.
But you said it better "defensive driving" involves lane discipline amongst the better educated and skilled drivers.
But you said it better "defensive driving" involves lane discipline amongst the better educated and skilled drivers.
#41
Pole Position
So then, if you want to do 20 or 25 (or more) over the limit (which, in some states, legally, is reckless driving), and a person in the left lane doing THE speed limit (or slightly above it), as the left lane was meant for, he or she is required to pull over and allow you to do so?
#42
Lexus Fanatic
so the speeders can get their tickets.
Here is a good website on the subject, BTW.....it shows that there seem to be different policies in just about every state. Some require you to pull over even if people behind you are speeders, others do not. Some allow left-lane use, at the limit, even if there are speeders stacked up behind you.
http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-14-10 at 01:19 PM.
#43
Lexus Fanatic
I don't see us legislating this problem away. Better educated and skilled drivers will have a more positive benefit than new laws that like many are haphazardly enforced. I've observed drivers in Europe with a better understandling of lane discipline. American drivers with lax licensing and low driver skill levels are something else.
#44
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After just driving to and from N.C and literally passing half a dozen cars over and over in the fast lane I say it should be legal to run them off the road.
There should be no reason someone going faster has to manuever over and over and go from the fast lane 3/4 lanes over to the slow lane to come back over to the fast lane.
It is beyond pathetic.
There should be no reason someone going faster has to manuever over and over and go from the fast lane 3/4 lanes over to the slow lane to come back over to the fast lane.
It is beyond pathetic.
#45
Lexus Fanatic
^^ Agreed, what is wrong with those incompetent road boulders. Where did they learn that the fast lane is the equivalent of a freeway parking lot for half awake drones, coffee-sipping, nose-picking, cell phone chatting, that have no idea what mirrors are for.
Last edited by IS-SV; 02-14-10 at 10:21 PM. Reason: sp