AutoSpies rips Motor Trend a new one
AutoSpies rips Motor Trend a new one
From Motor Trend:
AutoSpies rebuttal:
....ouch
..."Guess what, automotive blogosphere, Honda's Accord Crosstour is not the design catastrophe you so deliriously predicted.
Prior to the new Crosstour's traditional introduction, Honda, rather innocently, released early images of the Crosstour on Facebook. However, these social networks can often be less than sociable gatherings. Snap a finger, and a bunch of collegial car-loving "friends" can transform into a pack of frenzied piranhas. And on their menu last September was the complicated-looking Crosstour, which was spilling blood in the water even before it was properly introduced to the mainstream press. Okay, so just about every car company these days is upping the ante with their online stripteasing, leaking a photo here, releasing a gallery to a social network there, but this time, the viral publicity machine chose to bite back -- and bite back hard. Oh, for the days when a new car was revealed to the world with one mighty whiskaway of a black sheet at a major car show."
Prior to the new Crosstour's traditional introduction, Honda, rather innocently, released early images of the Crosstour on Facebook. However, these social networks can often be less than sociable gatherings. Snap a finger, and a bunch of collegial car-loving "friends" can transform into a pack of frenzied piranhas. And on their menu last September was the complicated-looking Crosstour, which was spilling blood in the water even before it was properly introduced to the mainstream press. Okay, so just about every car company these days is upping the ante with their online stripteasing, leaking a photo here, releasing a gallery to a social network there, but this time, the viral publicity machine chose to bite back -- and bite back hard. Oh, for the days when a new car was revealed to the world with one mighty whiskaway of a black sheet at a major car show."
Can you believe the NERVE of this writer claiming that THEY are right and the social networks like ours got it wrong lambasting the design of the Honda Aztek, er, Crosstour?
And they had the gall to claim that the majority of you are "collegial car-loving "friends" and "a pack of frenzied piranhas"?
They're almost relegating us to 'Tea-Bagger' status.
What an insult!
The CONSUMER couldn't POSSIBLY know if a design is good or bad.
Only the hallowed buff book writers that live in the puzzle palace should be given THAT kind of responsibility.
It couldn't POSSIBLY be that the Crosstour is absolutely hideous, could it?
And that Honda's mistake was they didn't "properly introduced to the mainstream press" first?
Hey, MotorTrend, do you guys REALLY think in this day and age, you're STILL all that?
You go on the same trips we do and I can safely conclude that 95% of the "PROPER" motoring press wouldn't know a great car design it it whacked them in the face.
One of the biggest reasons the American car companies got in so much trouble is because THE BUFF BOOKS have been giving them a pass since Noah was on the ark.
Their ad dollars OWN you and you just sat there (Look at the Crosstour ad at the top of this review!), shut up and took the trips, the perks and the bucks.
SHAME ON YOU!
It's no wonder, your mags are 1/5 the size that they used to be.
And it ain't gonna get any better for you guys anytime soon!
Especially with attitudes like that!
Thank God for the social networks, the blogs and the entire internet for democratizing this automotive world for the first time in forever!
And they had the gall to claim that the majority of you are "collegial car-loving "friends" and "a pack of frenzied piranhas"?
They're almost relegating us to 'Tea-Bagger' status.
What an insult!
The CONSUMER couldn't POSSIBLY know if a design is good or bad.
Only the hallowed buff book writers that live in the puzzle palace should be given THAT kind of responsibility.
It couldn't POSSIBLY be that the Crosstour is absolutely hideous, could it?
And that Honda's mistake was they didn't "properly introduced to the mainstream press" first?
Hey, MotorTrend, do you guys REALLY think in this day and age, you're STILL all that?
You go on the same trips we do and I can safely conclude that 95% of the "PROPER" motoring press wouldn't know a great car design it it whacked them in the face.
One of the biggest reasons the American car companies got in so much trouble is because THE BUFF BOOKS have been giving them a pass since Noah was on the ark.
Their ad dollars OWN you and you just sat there (Look at the Crosstour ad at the top of this review!), shut up and took the trips, the perks and the bucks.
SHAME ON YOU!
It's no wonder, your mags are 1/5 the size that they used to be.
And it ain't gonna get any better for you guys anytime soon!
Especially with attitudes like that!
Thank God for the social networks, the blogs and the entire internet for democratizing this automotive world for the first time in forever!
....ouch
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I can't believe I'm saying this but GO AUTOSPIES!!! Having read that same review on the Crosstour, I shook my head in disbelief of the token "Honda press fanboi pass" they used again.
For quite sometime now I have publicly blasted most of these mags for their childish conclusions, amateur writing and biased ways especially towards Honda/Acura and BMW. Its CRYSTAL CLEAR to people.
Hey Motor Trend, these social "sites" have replaced you as the new means of relevant auto news. If (when) you die off, the only people sad will be those few loyal subscribers.
For quite sometime now I have publicly blasted most of these mags for their childish conclusions, amateur writing and biased ways especially towards Honda/Acura and BMW. Its CRYSTAL CLEAR to people.
Hey Motor Trend, these social "sites" have replaced you as the new means of relevant auto news. If (when) you die off, the only people sad will be those few loyal subscribers.
They'll probably keep sending the magazine to you.
I get MT,Car&Driver and Road&Track for a couple of years now free after my subscription expiration date.
I guesss the circulation number for ad dollars is more important that the $6 or other number renewal fee.
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go autospies
Then when you don't pay, they send you to collection
(even when they didn't send me any mags and after writing "do not renew" on their Renewal subscription)
Happened to me, had a write a couple of letters, and they finally stopped.
I don't even bother with the freebies.
(even when they didn't send me any mags and after writing "do not renew" on their Renewal subscription) Happened to me, had a write a couple of letters, and they finally stopped.
I don't even bother with the freebies.
go autospies
Then when you don't pay, they send you to collection (even when they didn't send me any mags and after writing "do not renew" on their Renewal subscription)
Happened to me, had a write a couple of letters, and they finally stopped.
I don't even bother with the freebies.
Then when you don't pay, they send you to collection
(even when they didn't send me any mags and after writing "do not renew" on their Renewal subscription) Happened to me, had a write a couple of letters, and they finally stopped.
I don't even bother with the freebies.
I believe they need circulation numbers for ad revenue.
I can't believe I'm saying this but GO AUTOSPIES!!! Having read that same review on the Crosstour, I shook my head in disbelief of the token "Honda press fanboi pass" they used again.
For quite sometime now I have publicly blasted most of these mags for their childish conclusions, amateur writing and biased ways especially towards Honda/Acura and BMW. Its CRYSTAL CLEAR to people.
Hey Motor Trend, these social "sites" have replaced you as the new means of relevant auto news. If (when) you die off, the only people sad will be those few loyal subscribers.
For quite sometime now I have publicly blasted most of these mags for their childish conclusions, amateur writing and biased ways especially towards Honda/Acura and BMW. Its CRYSTAL CLEAR to people.
Hey Motor Trend, these social "sites" have replaced you as the new means of relevant auto news. If (when) you die off, the only people sad will be those few loyal subscribers.
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What makes Autospies any more a "voice of the consumer" than MT? Though I don't particularly like the Crosstour's styling myself, and I'm not an apologist for MT by any means (it is clearly not one of the better auto magazines), basically these articles look to me like two spoiled kids tossing sand at each other in a sandbox.
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What makes Autospies any more a "voice of the consumer" than MT? Though I don't particularly like the Crosstour's styling myself, and I'm not an apologist for MT by any means (it is clearly not one of the better auto magazines), basically these articles look to me like two spoiled kids tossing sand at each other in a sandbox.
MT is again showing its usual bias here. How can the MAJORITY of people be wrong on styling?
Look there is styling that is subjective like say the new E-class (I think its average at best but I can understand how some people think its okay) and there is styling where the majority has the same opinion as in the Crosstour. Its horrid. Its not like Honda makes beautiful vehicles and wham, the Crosstour is ugly. No, its another ugly Honda. How can ANYONE including MT be surprised? Seeing the Crosstour get ripped to shreds on FB doesn't mean people on social networking sites jumped on another bandwagon. In this case they are right.
Funny but in the MT article, they mentioned it is like a Lexus I believe 3 or 4 times.
