Originally Posted by AceVA

It's a shame we live in such a litigious society where people can't take responsibility for their own stupidity. Spill hot coffee on oneself - it's clearly the responsibility of the person who gave you the coffee, right? That hot coffee just snuck up on you. Crash a vehicle because you glanced over at a screen and you're not a good driver to begin with? Clearly the automaker's fault.

I think a reasonable compromise is locking out all features by default. If one wants to assume the risk of piling into a tree because they can't multi-task, the owner should have the ability to override the lockout (even if it's through the Lexus personal settings program, requiring a re-program from the dealer) and assume all responsibility thereafter, thus releasing the manufacturer from further liability.

Originally Posted by The G Man

Thats a good point, Lexus can have the owner sign a waiver form releasing Lexus of all liability.
What Lexus is doing is almost like the Lexus owners are second graders, if a few Lexus owners dont know how to play with their toys safely, then Lexus should just take away the toys from everyone to punish them.

Originally Posted by AceVA

It's a shame we live in such a litigious society where people can't take responsibility for their own stupidity. Spill hot coffee on oneself - it's clearly the responsibility of the person who gave you the coffee, right? That hot coffee just snuck up on you. Crash a vehicle because you glanced over at a screen and you're not a good driver to begin with? Clearly the automaker's fault.

I think a reasonable compromise is locking out all features by default. If one wants to assume the risk of piling into a tree because they can't multi-task, the owner should have the ability to override the lockout (even if it's through the Lexus personal settings program, requiring a re-program from the dealer) and assume all responsibility thereafter, thus releasing the manufacturer from further liability.

Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

Money has to be made In all seriousness, once you accept the terms of the on screen disclaimer by pushing that button & start driving, liability on the part of the automaker will be deemed waived..

Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

Money has to be made In all seriousness, once you accept the terms of the on screen disclaimer by pushing that button & start driving, liability on the part of the automaker will be deemed waived..

Originally Posted by Joeb427

So true!!
Toyota can be a PITA.
Another bonehead safety feature.
Toyota part remote start installaion operation.
Start vehicle with keyfob.
Unlock doors and engine shuts down having to start again.
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Originally Posted by The G Man

Dont forget the headlights, Toyota and Lexus all have their headlights aim at the lower limits.

Originally Posted by Joeb427

Yeah,I've noticed that.The HID cutoff isn't to far ahead and should be further.

Originally Posted by Joeb427

So true!!
Toyota can be a PITA.
Another bonehead safety feature.
Toyota part remote start installaion operation.
Start vehicle with keyfob.
Unlock doors and engine shuts down having to start again.
.

Originally Posted by The G Man

Dont forget the headlights, Toyota and Lexus all have their headlights aim at the lower limits.

Originally Posted by The G Man

How is the aim on your new ES? I have to adjust the low beam on every Lexus and Toyota I owned.

Originally Posted by Joeb427

Actually,now that you bring that up,the RX seems a bit worse.

Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen

I feel in car navs are going to get killed off except in the more expensive cars in the future especially when we have GPS systems for under $200, Iphones, and Droids.