MR_F1

Are you serious?

(Cj)

Are you crazy? Just think about this car. It's a foot shorter than the IS250, and it has more horsepower (300h designation versus 250). With the instant torque from the electric motor this thing will a be a BLAST to drive (especially with RWD/AWD).

Lexus even registered the trademark for a "400h" so there might be a version of this hothatch with over 300hp!

Koma

iTrader: (3)

The distinction between wagon and hatch is not that clear. Sure a wagon tends to have a little bit more designated cargo space than a hatch but they have the same basic shapes.

lex

hatch:


tried to photoshop a wagon:
or



it needs to look like it's wearing a backpack

LexFather

Forgot about the trademarks...thanks


http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/31/l...ntry-level-eu/

Koma

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What would you call an Impreza wagon, Matrix, 3 5-door etc? Or does that have another name, sport wagon?

I realize the majority of people who think wagon will think something like the station wagons of old but some smaller wagons are also sometimes considered hatches.

GiantsFan

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i think wagon/hatch can be interchangeable ...

Initial B

iTrader: (2)

A Lexus hatchback/wagon would be great, as long as it's built solid and quiet. Which I'm sure it would. A FWD Lexus HB/wagon, would be teh gheyness.

(Cj)

Thanks for the link. If this thing "is" FWD (which is increasingly making sense for the sake of engine sharing alone), the base CT200h would probably share the Prius's 1.8L hybrid setup (50mpg Lexus?), the 300h may have a big I4 like the Venza's paired with an electric motor, and I would guess that the 400h would have a similar setup as the RX450h with over 300hp.

I've heard that if the LF-Ch is sold in the US the 200h won't make it over (for obvious reasons), but the 300h and the 400h will (but Canada may get the 200h for obvious reasons). Now the only thing that I'm wondering is price and if AWD will be offered (it should be!)

whoster

I do believe that a wagon has a "D" pillar, meaning that it has a third window aft of the rear door window.

a Hatch just has a fatty "C" pillar and no third window.

MR_F1

You'd call an impreza wagon, a wagon of course. As is a matrix. Never seen a real 3 door wagon (though the Europeans would call those shooting brakes).

Wagons are elongated sedans, sedans with extended cargo areas etc. Hatches are 3/5 door (usually) compact cars. Similar in concept but not the same.

Sportcross, Estate are synonyms. Audi call their wagons Avant.

lex

Here u go:

Koma

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I stand corrected. There is a pretty clear distinction between hatches and wagons.

MR_F1

Wow........... I think I just threw up in my mouth a little, Thanks for that


lol